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  • #16
    Why don't you use W7? You need DXVA2 anyway when you want to try vlc 1.1.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by djtm View Post
      btw. Has anyone managed to get DXVA running in Windows XP or Vista or 7?
      Yes, it's working on my Fit-PC2 with Windows 7.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by gellert View Post
        Yes, it's working on my Fit-PC2 with Windows 7.
        Thanks! Which driver are you using? Did Vlc 1.1 work for you?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by djtm View Post
          I'm also a bit frustrated. I bought my netbook as many in the hope that Intel would provide a well working open source driver, at least excluding 3d and vaapi. Then I managed to get it running at all and then including 3d and vaapi (see http://linux-tipps.blogspot.com/2009...-msi-wind.html) and i was quite happy.
          But I never managed to get several things to work:
          * reliable standby (works once or twice if I haven't used 3d or vaapi)
          * backlight regulation.
          (Does anyone know how to fix any of this?)

          Now I have the crazy situation that in Windows XP I can use standby and 3d but no HD, and in Linux I have better quality and vaapi HD video playback and 3d, but no standby. And I'm frustrated.
          It's such a nice netbook and performs so well otherwise, it's really frustrating if drivers keep you from really enjoying what you bought. Please Intel, at least release open source specs!!!
          With a streamlined kernel and an SSD, and a few other system tweaks to limit SSD writes, what do you want "standby" for? My ASUS tablet w/z520 and 32GB SSD boots Fedora 12 to a usable desktop in 10 seconds flat.

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          • #20
            yeah, I wish I had an SSD. I'm thinking about it. But I really don't have the money right now... Hence I'd much prefer a working standby.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by djtm View Post
              Thanks! Which driver are you using? Did Vlc 1.1 work for you?
              I am using the Intel GMA 500 laptop graphics controller version 2024, i.e. not IEGD. I believe I tried some beta version of vlc with preliminary DXVA2 support without success. Mpc-hc from xvidvideo.ru works okay, but actually the builtin MS codecs with EVR work really well. With Haali media splitter and ac3filter you are pretty much covered. Some filter merit tweaking may be needed to make EVR default.
              However, what most people from the Linux community seem oblivious to is the fact that the Windows drivers are not great either.

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              • #22
                I am very aware of the windows drivers being bad. Actually they're worse than the Linux driver in many ways, e.g. they lack hw video scaling (it's just a blocky mess). I'm really fond of how absolutely flawlessly mplayer with vaapi is working in Linux. Only some old DivX files don't want to play properly. But h264 in any resolution I could find (highest was 1080p @ 50fps) works perfectly. If only the standby would still work afterwards...

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Chad Page View Post
                  Considering intel's said the Atom Z600 series *cannot* run Windows, they'd better get this smeg sorted out quick, since otherwise they won't be able to run *anything* worth a darn
                  The current N-series Atoms don't couple a GMA500, but rather a GMA3400 in the chipset... Maybe they figured out it wasn't such a hot idea to do what they did with Poulsbo?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by gellert View Post
                    However, what most people from the Linux community seem oblivious to is the fact that the Windows drivers are not great either.
                    Oh, we're not oblivious. The big problem is with GETTING the drivers to work on the distribution of our choice as much as anything else.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                      The current N-series Atoms don't couple a GMA500, but rather a GMA3400 in the chipset... Maybe they figured out it wasn't such a hot idea to do what they did with Poulsbo?
                      Nothing much has changed in this regard. N-series has NEVER come with PSB/SGX GPU. However, the N-series comes with GMA950 (which is fine -- all intel IP no weird driver issues). I can't find any reference to a "GMA3400", even on intel's website. I suspect that you may have got this one wrong.

                      The issue is regarding the Z-series atom chips, and the DEFINING CHARACTERISTIC of the Z-series is the poulsbo chipSET, which includes the horrifying GMA500/SGX535.

                      Advantage is H264 video decoding and no need for a cooling fan.
                      Disadvantage speaks for itself.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                        I can't find any reference to a "GMA3400", even on intel's website.
                        That's because it's actualy GMA 3150 and not 3400.

                        Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                        The issue is regarding the Z-series atom chips, and the DEFINING CHARACTERISTIC of the Z-series is the poulsbo chipSET, which includes the horrifying GMA500/SGX535.
                        And now the new GMA600 on Lincroft (Z6xx) whichs suffers from the same problems as the GMA500. The disappointment in these parts is due to the fact that it is really good hardware, but the software is horrible.

                        Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                        Advantage is H264 video decoding and no need for a cooling fan.
                        Disadvantage speaks for itself.
                        I believe it also has good 3D performance, at least compared to the previous GMA950. The new 3150 has even worse performance than 950, but it has more video playback capabilities. Intel seems to be focusing on what's important for most users, although I wouldn't mind playing some OpenArena from time to time on a netbook.

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