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    Phoronix: Fedora 12 Is Codenamed Constantine

    After having gone to the community for looking at names, Red Hat has announced that the release of Fedora 12 will be codenamed Constantine. This name had the most votes and was approved by Red Hat's Legal department of being free of any potential issues...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzM1MQ

  • #2
    Uh? Fedora is going to donate the whole Linux community to the Roman Catholic Church?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by r1348 View Post
      Uh? Fedora is going to donate the whole Linux community to the Roman Catholic Church?
      Lets just keep the religion quips out of this please. We've already had one Jade in the forums and he was enough.

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      • #4
        Ok, now I want Ubuntu Caesar or Ubuntu Asterix!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by deanjo View Post
          Lets just keep the religion quips out of this please.
          I agree 100%. What happened to the separation of church and Fedora's state?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DanL View Post
            I agree 100%. What happened to the separation of church and Fedora's state?
            Well it has little relevance. The theme for Fedora has been great historical leaders. Besides he even got the religion wrong. Constantine was baptized Orthodox on his death bed.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by deanjo View Post
              Well it has little relevance. The theme for Fedora has been great historical leaders. Besides he even got the religion wrong. Constantine was baptized Orthodox on his death bed.
              In 337 a.d. there was still no distinction between Catholic and Orthodox Churches.

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              • #8
                what a stupid moronic name!

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                • #9
                  I'm actually a bit sruprised the name did not pose any copyrighnt infringement, wasn't there a famous novel, then made movie from writer Stephen King with that very same name as the title? I just hope computers loaded with it don't start acting wierd.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by r1348 View Post
                    In 337 a.d. there was still no distinction between Catholic and Orthodox Churches.
                    The importance, was the leader's turn from idolatry to christianity in general and not to orthodoxy specifically. So I suppose the choice of that name has to do with the adoption of a great change. Is there a great change planned for the next version of Fedora? If yes then I find it a right decision, if not then I suppose they could find a bunch of better names.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                      Well it has little relevance. The theme for Fedora has been great historical leaders.
                      Great leaders like Sulphur, Moonshine, Heidelburg and Werewolf ?
                      What ARE you thinking ?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                        The theme for Fedora has been great historical leaders.
                        The theme changes for every release, in such a way that it could be argued that every release after the first one actually shares two themes. What they do is take the current name and try to link it to a new name, without reusing the previous link. According to the official theme links, Leonidas was named for the USS Leonidas (per the USS Cambridge), and Constantine was named for Constantine, Michigan (per Leonidas Township, Michigan).

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                        • #13
                          The submitter didn't give anything in way of ideas for next theme.

                          So Constatine is ..., as ______ is also ...

                          Per Fedora naming convention ("The link to the new name cannot be the same as the link from Cambridge to Leonidas, nor any other previous link."), so another city theme is out.

                          You cannot use the DC character (Constantine in Hellblazer) as a theme because anything relating to it would probably be protected by copyright. (You cannot call it "Bruce", as in Bruce Wayne.)

                          Also, Constantine as a Roman ruler, runs the risk of being boring. Note all the kings listed in Fedora 12 name suggestions that did not make it past the first round.


                          So what do we have left? Basically, you could use movie titles, emporers, and not much else.


                          Still disappointed they didn't let Elvis pass legal.



                          Originally posted by Ex-Cyber View Post
                          The theme changes for every release, in such a way that it could be argued that every release after the first one actually shares two themes. What they do is take the current name and try to link it to a new name, without reusing the previous link. According to the official theme links, Leonidas was named for the USS Leonidas (per the USS Cambridge), and Constantine was named for Constantine, Michigan (per Leonidas Township, Michigan).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by The_Monkey_King View Post
                            The submitter didn't give anything in way of ideas for next theme.

                            So Constatine is ..., as ______ is also ...
                            It's a pretty common name; you can take any moderately famous person, place, or thing with that name and link out based on occupation, historical significance, or whatever. To give a lame example, Constantine is the first name of an opera composer (Constantine Koukias), and so is Wilhelm (Wilhelm Richard Wagner).

                            Originally posted by The_Monkey_King
                            Per Fedora naming convention ("The link to the new name cannot be the same as the link from Cambridge to Leonidas, nor any other previous link."), so another city theme is out.
                            Elsewhere it says that the only hard rule is that the previous link not be reused, but that they also prefer to not reuse any of the previous links (Leonidas -> Constantine as "towns" is pretty much a fig leaf over the fact that just a few releases ago it was Sulphur -> Cambridge as "cities").

                            Originally posted by The_Monkey_King
                            You cannot use the DC character (Constantine in Hellblazer) as a theme because anything relating to it would probably be protected by copyright. (You cannot call it "Bruce", as in Bruce Wayne.)
                            Copyright doesn't protect names. Trademark does, but the scope of protection is very different; it's pretty common for products and companies in different industries to use the same name. In fact, they already used a DC character for FC 6: "Zod".

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                            • #15
                              Ex-Cyber gives really good examples. Thanks!

                              So really while it is fun & games to participate in the naming game, it really falls to the Red Hat folks to pick what they like.

                              So we all, most of all me, should just take the rules and names with a grain of salt and let it go...muthafarkers...

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