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  • Ubuntu 9.04 Gets Released

    Phoronix: Ubuntu 9.04 Gets Released

    Ubuntu 9.04 has been released this morning along with the 9.04 "Jaunty Jackalope" updates to Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Mythbuntu, and Ubuntu Studio. With Ubuntu 9.04 there also remain the server and Netbook Remix spins. There are download links for the *buntu 9.04 releases within the Canonical release announcement...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzIyMg

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    Overall, a great release. But it's not all fine. Intel users experience problems, I've heard of R3xx Mesa problems, Kubuntu has broken language packages thanks to Rosetta, and there are way too many other known issues. If you are not affected by them, great. But if you are, you won't be lucky.

    So where's karmic Alpha 1?

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    • #3
      It is good to have a new release, but why do they follow the release schedule with such problems like broken language packages?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by KDesk View Post
        It is good to have a new release, but why do they follow the release schedule with such problems like broken language packages?
        That's because they don't give a damn about Kubuntu (they = Canonical). Kubuntu devs like Harald Sitter have already explained that the situation has to improve or he and maybe others will switch to Debian or Fedora. But I am optimistic that the situation can indeed improve

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KDesk View Post
          It is good to have a new release, but why do they follow the release schedule with such problems like broken language packages?
          Agreed with this sentiment. They should move potential release dates to the beginning of the month so if something comes up, they can push things back 2 weeks and not feel like they *have* to get things about the door on an exact date.

          I also disagree about there just Kubuntu problems. The Intel driver issues affect everyone.

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          • #6
            And everyone's updating and hammering the package archive servers.
            C'mon, guys, I'm trying to install packages here!

            Anyway, I've been using Jaunty for a while now, and it's been 100% stable. (Except that time I removed some package and killed KDM, or that time I tried reinstalling grub and killed LVM, or...)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by d2kx View Post
              That's because they don't give a damn about Kubuntu (they = Canonical). Kubuntu devs like Harald Sitter have already explained that the situation has to improve or he and maybe others will switch to Debian or Fedora. But I am optimistic that the situation can indeed improve
              I'm not exactly sure what what point Harald Sitter became a Kubuntu developer or anything more than a proud Kubuntu user. Last I knew the only project I've ever seen him contribute to was Apache.

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              • #8
                d2kx: I also hope that the situation will improve.

                From what I have read, M. Shuttleworth uses KDE, it's ironic that Gnome gets more love (but it needs more anyway), also XUbuntu has the same problem as KDE.

                jblackhall: That is a good idea, to move potential release dates to the beginning of the month, so the release will have the same version number.


                I think that they should merge at least all the 3 main *ubuntu distros, with One name, and if they will to recommend by default the Gnome desktop... Like many other distros.

                Edit: I find the blog entry of which d2kx was talking about http://apachelog.blogspot.com/2009/0...untu-l10n.html
                Last edited by KDesk; 04-23-2009, 12:46 PM.

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                • #9
                  Hm... not a big fan of *buntu usually, but I'll give the new Kubuntu a try (via kvm). I'd usually prefer "real" Debian (or sidux) but the last time I checked it was pretty complicated to get KDE 4.2 installed on them.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by d2kx View Post
                    That's because they don't give a damn about Kubuntu (they = Canonical). Kubuntu devs like Harald Sitter have already explained that the situation has to improve or he and maybe others will switch to Debian or Fedora. But I am optimistic that the situation can indeed improve
                    Couldn't say I'd care much if he did. I'd rather have Kubuntu dropped and more work put into Ubuntu/Xubuntu. KDE is a pack of bloat built upon half-proprietary bloat. Gnome is worse off enough with duplicating GTK, and even XFCE is taking a turn to the worse as far as using resources is concerned, imho.

                    Oh well, who needs X, just scrap it altogether.

                    </halfmock rant>

                    Edit: by the way, has anyone ventured a look into Xubuntu Jaunty? The artwork is simply amazing. >_>
                    Last edited by susikala; 04-23-2009, 01:42 PM.

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                    • #11
                      KDE 4.2.x has entered Debian unstable. The Q2 '09 release of Sidux should offer KDE 4.2.x and Xfce 4.6.x

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by susikala View Post
                        I'd rather have Kubuntu dropped and more work put into Ubuntu/Xubuntu. KDE is a pack of bloat built upon half-proprietary bloat.
                        What is in KDE proprietary? I didn't new that...


                        I would drop GNOME because of the superiority of Qt.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by d2kx View Post
                          Overall, a great release. But it's not all fine. Intel users experience problems, I've heard of R3xx Mesa problems, Kubuntu has broken language packages thanks to Rosetta
                          What is Rosetta? Is it the Apple Roseta or something else?

                          Originally posted by KDesk View Post
                          What is in KDE proprietary? I didn't new that...

                          I would drop GNOME because of the superiority of Qt.
                          I would say you guys both make very bad/childish arguments, and need to think before you hit the 'Save' button.
                          Last edited by MaestroMaus; 04-23-2009, 03:15 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MaestroMaus View Post
                            What is Rosetta? Is it the Apple Roseta or something else?
                            Rosetta is the translation web application on launch pad. Rosetta will display a package and its translation status, what strings have been translated, which ones have not, etc.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MaestroMaus View Post
                              What is Rosetta? Is it the Apple Roseta or something else?



                              I would say you guys both make very bad/childish arguments, and need to think before you hit the 'Save' button.
                              susikala said: "I'd rather have Kubuntu dropped and more work put into Ubuntu/Xubuntu. KDE is a pack of bloat built upon half-proprietary bloat"... So I say "I would drop GNOME because of the superiority of Qt."

                              What's the difference? A bad argument deserves a poor response.

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