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  • #16
    KDE 4.2.2 can be used with lenny too. Just KDE 3.5 or KDE 4.2 apps can be localized due to package conflicts. Not sure if both packages could be installed in parallel with a little modification. At least KDE 4.2.2 is nothing that could not be used without using Kubuntu or Debian unstable.

    http://debian-desktop.org

    Also you can use fglrx with r500 and older cards that way. New distros usually use Xserver 1.6 which is problematic for those cards.

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    • #17
      I am running Kubuntu 9.04 now and translations have improved since the Release Candidate (yes, the one that was around last week). But it is still not complete and the situation as a whole was not too cool and it was not the first time this happened.

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      • #18
        I don't get all that kubuntu bashing... At least they provide a Qt only distro with many of ubuntu guis ported to Qt.

        Compare that to debian which aside from main main GNOME desktop provides a KDE cd with GTK+ apps ... Oh and all Debian centric GUIs are in GTK+... New Aptititude GUI ? Yes you guessed it's in GTK+

        So saying anything about moving to Debian (or even worse the most gnome centric Fedora) because kubuntu sucks for KDE is kind of silly ...

        That said kubuntu for sure is not perfect.

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        • #19
          I just moved to Kubuntu since 9.04. Ubuntu is just too boring, and no big changes since 8.04。

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          • #20
            I would stick with Kubuntu if it weren't because of all the crashes. 64bit gives me more hassles than 32bit, so I just relegate Kubuntu to my laptop. Been spoiled by Compiz and its plugins as well. Overall, Kubuntu is a great KDE implementation.
            By the way, is anyone having problems with the "sphere" and "cylinder" desktop effect in KWIN? I can't seem to get them to work. Only the "Cube" effect works. Some of the effects don't seem to work either for me, like maximize desktop.
            Last edited by Melcar; 04-23-2009, 10:04 PM.

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            • #21
              So I was all primed to replace 8.04 with 9.04 but now that i've burnt the disc & booted into the livecd I'm having second thoughts...

              I'm concerned about xf86-video-ati performance with compiz (I have an r500), & fan speed.

              & a bigger gripe, although most folk will think this a minor issue.....
              wtf happened to the System/Quit button in gnome? I use cairo-dock & I'm not sure what the 'quit' button is going to do now(didn't work properly in intrepid), will it bring me the logout/switch user window or the shutdown window? I'd like to have one window with logout/shutdown/restart/ etc etc etc (like hardy)

              As I said it's a pretty minor issue with probably an easy fix, but I've googled around & haven't found a solution. It's bugging me soooo much at the moment that I'm hesitating the upgrade.

              ?

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              • #22
                Need powersaving features working

                powernow-k8 seems to be compiled into the generic kernel - if it was a module I could replace it with a working one - at least partially, because userspace and ondemand governor have never worked on my everun note. Too bad that noone cares about bugs that were already present in 8.10. powernow-k8 source

                My other problem is that fglrx 9.3 doesn't support X.org 1.6 and fglrx 9.4 doesn't support my RS690M. The free radeon driver has only basic 3D support and I can't play games like Jack Keane.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Schugy View Post
                  powernow-k8 seems to be compiled into the generic kernel - if it was a module I could replace it with a working one - at least partially, because userspace and ondemand governor have never worked on my everun note. Too bad that noone cares about bugs that were already present in 8.10. powernow-k8 source

                  My other problem is that fglrx 9.3 doesn't support X.org 1.6 and fglrx 9.4 doesn't support my RS690M. The free radeon driver has only basic 3D support and I can't play games like Jack Keane.
                  For what it's worth, I'm sort of in the same situation, but I have a Mobility X1400. I LIKE THE OPEN SOURCE DRIVER BETTER. I can keep compiz on and watch videos (before, going full screen and out of full screen a few times would crash X.) I can play Warcraft III in WINE on battle.net full screen while keeping compiz on. I LOVE IT!

                  Now, I do realize that fglrx added in redirected rendering, so I miss that, but this (EDIT: the combination of 9.04 and the open source radeon driver) is by far more stable. The "Lattice" screensaver results in a hard lock with the open driver, though.

                  Other than that, I have almost no regrets jumping into Ubuntu 9.04 and the open source driver on day one... except the annoying beep when I shut down. This beep sounds like the beep that pcspkr makes, but it actually comes through the real speakers. They're supposedly working on a fix, though.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by LOLatMS View Post
                    For what it's worth, I'm sort of in the same situation, but I have a Mobility X1400. I LIKE THE OPEN SOURCE DRIVER BETTER. I can keep compiz on and watch videos (before, going full screen and out of full screen a few times would crash X.) I can play Warcraft III in WINE on battle.net full screen while keeping compiz on. I LOVE IT!

                    Now, I do realize that fglrx added in redirected rendering, so I miss that, but this (EDIT: the combination of 9.04 and the open source radeon driver) is by far more stable. The "Lattice" screensaver results in a hard lock with the open driver, though.

                    Other than that, I have almost no regrets jumping into Ubuntu 9.04 and the open source driver on day one... except the annoying beep when I shut down. This beep sounds like the beep that pcspkr makes, but it actually comes through the real speakers. They're supposedly working on a fix, though.
                    I have had that beep in all the ubuntu's so far.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by MaestroMaus View Post
                      I have had that beep in all the ubuntu's so far.
                      Oh, I see. I've been blacklisting pcspkr in each Ubuntu install, but every time Ubuntu comes out six months later, I forget that I did that. After a few days, I remember the things I had to do to set up Ubuntu again. So if you don't mind blacklisting pcspkr, you can add the line "blacklist pcspkr" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist

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                      • #26
                        So I just gave the Kubuntu 9.04 LiveCD a try and it actually seems pretty sweet. I didn't stumble upon any of the mentioned bugs (localisation is working fine (de), atleast for all KDE-standard-apps and 2d-performance seems good as well (using radeon)).
                        I guess it's a good distribution to recommend linux-starters, but it's not gonna replace my Gentoo-install, since it still has *buntus (in my eye) design-mistakes (mainly not having rolling-releases).

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                        • #27
                          I have just tested 9.04 and it's buggy, buggy and buggy.

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                          • #28
                            Haven't noticed any serious bugs, except for Compiz being a bit slower (window transformation). Even Pulseaudio seems to be far more stable (it has yet to crash on me or kill sound). 64bit Kubuntu does seem buggy however, since I can't go 2 minutes without that crash notification thing show up on my desktop.

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                            • #29
                              Jaunty was pretty boring, really nothing to get excited about in my opinion. I've upgraded to karmic testing already, hopefully this will be a much better version (don't think it'll ever make me switch from Arch though)

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