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    Phoronix: The First Release Of LXQt Is Now Available

    The first release of LXQT is now available that's the Qt port of the lightweight LXDE desktop environment while paired with Razor-qt...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTY4NDQ

  • #2
    Originally posted by http://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/32310545/
    "The Linux community sees many forks but never any merges."
    The merge has been praised by a lot of members of this community.
    The Maui Project has joined our efforts in creating a better Qt
    desktop and together we hope to focus less on our differences and more
    on what we share.
    The KDE Project has, in their efforts in building the modular KDE
    Frameworks, opened new doors for Qt developers working with desktop
    libraries. KF5 libraries may soon power some LXQt components!
    In the same spirit, I would like other desktops to consider this an
    open invitation to come and talk to us about how we could benefit from
    each other's work.
    See Cinnamon, Mate, Elementary/Pantheon,?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
      See Cinnamon, Mate, Elementary/Pantheon,?
      Is this supposed to be an example of forks, or merges...?

      Either way, I've been waiting to try out LXQt for ages and I'm compiling from the AUR right now D

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
        Is this supposed to be an example of forks, or merges...?
        Obviously forks.

        I hope they have fixed LXDEs broken .desktop file parser.

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        • #5
          Is anybody able to run this? I am getting some conflicts when trying to install lxqt-metapackage from the ppa recommended at lxqr.org

          Code:
          E: /var/cache/apt/archives/lxinput-qt_0.0.1~bzr54+201402070754~ubuntu14.04.1_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/lxqt-config-input.desktop', which is also in package lxqt-config 0.0.1+bzr185+201405060626~ubuntu14.04.1
          E: /var/cache/apt/archives/lxqt-session_0.0.1+bzr189+201405011905~ubuntu14.04.1_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/lxqt-xdg-tools/xdg-mime', which is also in package lxqt-about 0.0.1+bzr180+201402101933~ubuntu14.04.1
          Logging into the lxqt session takes me to a broken openbox session, with no panel, and no way to log out (right click and logout does nothing, so you need to restart lightm)

          Cheers!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
            Obviously forks.

            I hope they have fixed LXDEs broken .desktop file parser.
            Cinnamon I'll admit is a pretty shortsighted decision on the parts of the Mint developers rather than just reskinning upstream Gnome. But I'm sure they have their reasons, and one of them is definitely how unresponsive to different use cases they are.

            Mate isn't really a fork, it is just a continuation of gtk2. It is like if someone "forked" python2 to keep it going after 2020, it would not be much of a fork than maintenance on an old version. To my knowledge Mate isn't doing anything new on top of old Gnome 2 - if they were, I'd be complaining about why the hell they and xfce both exist.

            Enlightenment and Elementary are both their own things, without many forking roots to any modern project. If you aren't being paid, you work on what you want in this case.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by zanny View Post
              Mate isn't really a fork
              Yes, it is.

              Originally posted by zanny View Post
              Enlightenment and Elementary are both their own things, without many forking roots to any modern project. If you aren't being paid, you work on what you want in this case.
              Get a brain!

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              • #8
                now waiting hard for merging with xfce... let's kill gtk!!!

                aside from jokes, i'm very happy that these 2 have joined forces. Now i hope that the mate guys will realize that it would be better to just stop developing mate and go xfce..

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                • #9
                  Did anyone actually want this? I've never heard or read any requests for something like this.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Baemir View Post
                    Did anyone actually want this? I've never heard or read any requests for something like this.
                    The LXDE developers wanted to move to Qt, so they merged with razorQt. They couldn't stay on gtk2 forever.

                    The developers wanted it, it should have minimal user facing impact besides fancier UIs.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Baemir View Post
                      Did anyone actually want this? I've never heard or read any requests for something like this.
                      Users should never care about the toolkit or technology used behind the scenes. They just want something that works - and for this crowd, what they want is something lightweight. Beyond that, nobody cares how it's done.

                      The developers wanted to get rid of gtk2, because it won't work with Wayland, and because it's old and ugly to code with. They experimented with gtk3 but eventually decided to use qt instead after they determined that it would fit their needs better.

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                      • #12
                        So would this mean LXDE/LXQt is comming to Wayland with a near complete rewrite?
                        If so that is great news.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by zanny View Post
                          The LXDE developers wanted to move to Qt, so they merged with razorQt. They couldn't stay on gtk2 forever.

                          The developers wanted it, it should have minimal user facing impact besides fancier UIs.
                          From what I recall reading, it was the Razor-Qt devs that wanted to merge with LXDE after LXDE devs announced their intent to move to Qt, not the LXDE devs who wanted to merge with Razor-Qt. The Razor-Qt devs announced that they were finding it too difficult to continue forward as an independent project with how little manpower they had and that it didn't make sense for two lightweight Qt-based DEs to coexist and compete for user / developer share, so they decided to wrap their future development into LXDE instead.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mendieta View Post
                            Is anybody able to run this? I am getting some conflicts when trying to install lxqt-metapackage from the ppa recommended at lxqr.org

                            Code:
                            E: /var/cache/apt/archives/lxinput-qt_0.0.1~bzr54+201402070754~ubuntu14.04.1_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/lxqt-config-input.desktop', which is also in package lxqt-config 0.0.1+bzr185+201405060626~ubuntu14.04.1
                            E: /var/cache/apt/archives/lxqt-session_0.0.1+bzr189+201405011905~ubuntu14.04.1_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/lxqt-xdg-tools/xdg-mime', which is also in package lxqt-about 0.0.1+bzr180+201402101933~ubuntu14.04.1
                            Logging into the lxqt session takes me to a broken openbox session, with no panel, and no way to log out (right click and logout does nothing, so you need to restart lightm)

                            Cheers!
                            Using the AUR package on Manjaro here, it technically logs in but... the notification area has rendering issues and the menu doesn't work. That _could_ be because I have it trying to use muffin as it's window manager, and it's like "wtf is this shit".
                            (It forces you to choose a Window Manager when running it)

                            Originally posted by zanny View Post
                            Cinnamon I'll admit is a pretty shortsighted decision on the parts of the Mint developers rather than just reskinning upstream Gnome. But I'm sure they have their reasons, and one of them is definitely how unresponsive to different use cases they are.

                            Mate isn't really a fork, it is just a continuation of gtk2. It is like if someone "forked" python2 to keep it going after 2020, it would not be much of a fork than maintenance on an old version. To my knowledge Mate isn't doing anything new on top of old Gnome 2 - if they were, I'd be complaining about why the hell they and xfce both exist.

                            Enlightenment and Elementary are both their own things, without many forking roots to any modern project. If you aren't being paid, you work on what you want in this case.
                            Mate is a continuation of Gnome2, not GTK2 :P
                            Also, the MATE developers have actually changed quite a lot of the old code, not just maintained/bug-fixed it. Recently, there have been many talks of porting MATE to GTK+3, despite the fact that the cost of doing so outweighs the benefits of just focusing on improving any of the other "lightweight" panel-based DEs with bigger user bases (*cough*XFCE*cough*)

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                            • #15
                              So far, it looks good, it's a very good alternative for those who want something like KDE but lightweight. I already installed it in my system..

                              Originally posted by mendieta View Post
                              Is anybody able to run this? I am getting some conflicts when trying to install lxqt-metapackage from the ppa recommended at lxqr.org

                              Code:
                              E: /var/cache/apt/archives/lxinput-qt_0.0.1~bzr54+201402070754~ubuntu14.04.1_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/lxqt-config-input.desktop', which is also in package lxqt-config 0.0.1+bzr185+201405060626~ubuntu14.04.1
                              E: /var/cache/apt/archives/lxqt-session_0.0.1+bzr189+201405011905~ubuntu14.04.1_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/lxqt-xdg-tools/xdg-mime', which is also in package lxqt-about 0.0.1+bzr180+201402101933~ubuntu14.04.1
                              Logging into the lxqt session takes me to a broken openbox session, with no panel, and no way to log out (right click and logout does nothing, so you need to restart lightm)

                              Cheers!
                              IIRC, I had a similar problem, and the solution was to install lxqt-panel . I don't remember very well, but I think I had to install it manually or something.

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