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  • #16
    Originally posted by GraysonPeddie View Post
    Does anyone have any idea when GNOME 3.12 might be released for Arch Linux?

    Oh, I can't wait...
    Usually it moves to [ŧesting] within a handful of days and can basically installed but will be released to [extra] about 2 weeks later to make sure the transistion is smooth.
    There are already 3.12 apps in the [gnome-unstable] repo, which is kind of a staging repo.

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    • #17
      Ah, okay. Maybe I could upgrade to testing since I really like having all the latest software that I could have in my Arch Linux box. I don't mind bugs at all -- maybe unless it gets way too severe.

      Thanks.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by GraysonPeddie View Post
        Ah, okay. Maybe I could upgrade to testing since I really like having all the latest software that I could have in my Arch Linux box. I don't mind bugs at all -- maybe unless it gets way too severe.

        Thanks.
        I'd take a quick look at the testing forum just to see what people are running into- many times you won't run into any issues unless there's a big change, like when we started switching to systemd. Honestly, you tend not to get insane bugs, but the dependency chain is what you have to watch out for. Switching back to the core repos from testing can be problematic sometimes.

        Like blackout said, most of GNOME 3.12 is in the gnome-unstable repo, which tends to be your best bet for trying new releases early. The only major package I'm not seeing there right now is the Shell, so it's likely you'll be able to take a look at that soon enough.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by monraaf View Post
          How comes this gnome 3 excitement recently?
          It'll be the first major DE to run natively on Wayland.

          Originally posted by monraaf View Post
          I guess the fact that it's the only DE that can be useful on high dpi changes the game.
          Is it? I've heard Plasma became quite good at this as well. (My display is not HiDPI, so I can't tell.)

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post

            Is it? I've heard Plasma became quite good at this as well. (My display is not HiDPI, so I can't tell.)
            Yes, Both GNOME and Plasma are doing pretty well although at this point GNOME does have more of the kinks worked out. Intel provided some hardware to GNOME developers which really helped. Some of it is just adding quirks when hardware provides misleading info about its own capabilities but unfortunately that is a common occurance and quirks needs to be added regularly. Thankfully many of the workarounds get pushed down to kernel or udev which Plasma can take advantage of, as well.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by dungeon View Post
              In Sid there are some packages from 3.12 and they coming more now (but some goes first in experimental of course)... but for testing who knows that needs to be in good shape and tested first

              So you can try Debian sid+experimental right now if you want to see most parts of Gnome 3.12 .
              It will depend on the Jessie roadmap and when they freeze. It looks like 3.10 is going to be skipped in the same way Debian skipped 3.6. If we are lucky 3.12 will be in testing before the freeze and then it will stay that way for a long time. I see little chance in 3.14 being adopted at all given Debian's update history, with 3.16 being next into Sid in 18 months time.

              Of course that is all just a guess. If you want new versions quickly then switch to Arch. Just try it in a virtual machine or spare machine as there is a learning curve for Debian users.

              In the mean time I am happy enough with 3.8 on testing. I have tried the newer versions through experimental and Arch, but in the end Gnome Shell does not change that much and newer versions have less extensions available as it takes a while for extension authors to catch up. We have to go through the systemd change and then Wayland. My testing "just works" and that is good.

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              • #22
                Anyone know where the Gnome 3.12 ppa is? Is this it?

                https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/testing

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Dukenukemx View Post
                  Anyone know where the Gnome 3.12 ppa is? Is this it?

                  https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/testing
                  http://ubuntugnome.org/gnome-3-12/

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by wargames View Post
                    XFCE is probably the only sane one, but it seems to be dead...
                    I seriously hope not. I think it's dormant since the XFCE devs are not thinking about reinventing the entire interface with each version.

                    However, the mailing list archive's are dead (chromium says it redirects too much), blogs are not that alive and the last forum announcement was last year... hmmm :/

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by monraaf View Post
                      How comes this gnome 3 excitement recently? In its early day this site was more than critical w.r.t to gnome 3.

                      Gnome 3 still sucks. But I guess the fact that it's the only DE that can be useful on high dpi changes the game.
                      Yeah, because tons of linux users need hidpi support. Real game changer here.

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                      • #26
                        Best thing about GNOME 3.12 is the improved Wayland support, which unfortunately is still not done.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by pandev92 View Post
                          fantastic fonts rendering, which distro they used?
                          You're being sarcastic, right? Font rendering is probably the worst thing in Gnome.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Aleve Sicofante View Post
                            You're being sarcastic, right? Font rendering is probably the worst thing in Gnome.
                            That is a silly thing to claim. Font rendering is managed by fontconfig which is DE neutral. It can however be distro specific since some distros patch fontconfig or tweak the default settings in some way.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by RahulSundaram View Post
                              That is a silly thing to claim. Font rendering is managed by fontconfig which is DE neutral. It can however be distro specific since some distros patch fontconfig or tweak the default settings in some way.
                              What is really silly is showing a DE with such a poor rendering all the time. If a better one is available (and it definitely is), not using it is beyond silly.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Aleve Sicofante View Post
                                What is really silly is showing a DE with such a poor rendering all the time. If a better one is available (and it definitely is), not using it is beyond silly.
                                Font rendering is a personal preference. Pretending as if your opinions are universal doesn't help with the conversation at all. "Better" is subjective. Learn to accept that.

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