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    Phoronix: Features To Look Forward To In GNOME 3.12

    GNOME 3.12 is gearing up to be released tomorrow, so here's a recap of features to look forward to with this next major GNOME desktop update...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTY0Mjg

  • #2
    I'm really looking forward to GNOME 3.12 once it's available for Arch Linux. I'm happy that I switched from Ubuntu to Arch about a month ago even though I still have a love for Unity (HUD being the one but I don't think it will support the GtkHeaderBar widget that does away with the titlebar -- it would be nice if Google Chrome could take advantage of them and still have borders and shadows behind them). I like the look of the new GEdit 3.12, GNOME Boxes (very cool), and GNOME Videos. I've never came across Broadway, which is suited for tablets but I only have Nexus 7 with Android 4.4 which I can't replace due to investment in Android ecosystem.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Honton View Post
      Q: How many features did Gnome remove?
      A: Fewer than KDE.

      Q: How many features did Gnome add?
      A: A ton more than KDE.
      At this speed, they will reach parity in about 50 years :P

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      • #4
        What's the point behind Gnome spending resources on things like Web, Map, and Boxes? Wouldn't it be better to utilize those resources to work on more important tasks like completing the Wayland transition for example?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Honton
          There is no reason to be silent about facts.
          Biased facts you mean...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sarmad View Post
            What's the point behind Gnome spending resources on things like Web, Map, and Boxes? Wouldn't it be better to utilize those resources to work on more important tasks like completing the Wayland transition for example?
            Volunteer contributions are not fungible.

            People work on what they wish.

            There is no GNOME CEO to tell people to work on wayland stuff.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sarmad View Post
              What's the point behind Gnome spending resources on things like Web, Map, and Boxes? Wouldn't it be better to utilize those resources to work on more important tasks like completing the Wayland transition for example?
              So what's wrong with open source? People do what they like to do to impress others coming from other operating systems or desktop environments.

              People take existing applications and beautify it to make it their own. Make it so it works consistently with their desktop environment, which is what I like!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Honton View Post
                Q: How many features did Gnome remove?
                A: Fewer than KDE.

                Q: How many features did Gnome add?
                A: A ton more than KDE.
                Does it really matter? The only thing I wish I could do in KDE is middle click a window list item to close it, I liked that in Cinnamon. Gnome 3's workspace management is kinda neat, automatically creating and destroying them as needed, but I only ever use two.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sarmad View Post
                  What's the point behind Gnome spending resources on things like Web, Map, and Boxes? Wouldn't it be better to utilize those resources to work on more important tasks like completing the Wayland transition for example?
                  The point behind Web? Firefox announced ads in new tabs, and I don't like Chromium. With Web version 3.12 and multiple process support, it will be on par with Firefox's speed, so I think I am going to switch definitely. I addition, I totally agree with their conception of interface: minimalism is a must for a web browser.
                  The point behind Maps, well, do you have another Linux OpenStreetMap client to recommend?
                  Finally, Boxes is hands down the most usable GUI for Qemu.

                  I don't say that they are the best software ever coded in the galaxy, or the most useful ever, but I really find an interest in them, and I use them from time to time.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Honton View Post
                    Well it matter to a lot of people. At least it mattered when it was the other way around.
                    Another baseless claim.

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                    • #11
                      "Greater Facebook integration"

                      With the incredible number of issues to work on, "Facebook integration" just seems like a bit of a wayward project to me. How do we even know Facebook will be with us in 2-3 years? Did anyone notice MySpace had a similar trajectory, and then dove off the face of a cliff in terms of its user base? MySpace isn't even a social platform anymore - it's an mp3 purchasing site.

                      Look at all the work developers put into integrating AOL and Skype and the like into their software over the years, only to have the entire company sold and/or re-engineered in such a way as to make the earlier integration pointless.

                      Integrating a website into your desktop environment, no matter how popular, sounds like a recipe for disaster. With the way Google loves to kill off active projects, would anyone want to bet their life savings that Google+ will still be with us in 3 years? Is it a good idea to build Google+ integration into a desktop environment?

                      To say nothing of the privacy and security issues - because of course, Gnome Online Miners is now mining your Facebook account (and web browsing history) for integration into Tracker.

                      Unity wants to send all my searches to Amazon by default. Is KDE doing any of this silly "website integration" garbage?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Honton View Post
                        Q: How many features did Gnome remove?
                        A: Fewer than KDE.

                        Q: How many features did Gnome add?
                        A: A ton more than KDE.
                        You've got to be kidding. Everyone knows gnome removes features and adds neraly nothing, but idiotic changes that kill usability. Q: How stupid gnome fanboys are? A: They're little smarter than gnome devs.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by sarmad View Post
                          What's the point behind Gnome spending resources on things like Web, Map, and Boxes? Wouldn't it be better to utilize those resources to work on more important tasks like completing the Wayland transition for example?
                          At first they should fix gnome shell which is usability nightmare and then, they should move to Qt like everyone else. Gnome and gtk = no future.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Honton View Post
                            Well it matter to a lot of people. At least it mattered when it was the other way around.
                            That's why most gnome 2 users switched to other desktop environments. Gnome 3 is simply unusable and lacks KDE features.

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                            • #15
                              Too bad it's just copycat of KDE techs. Gnome is known of the NIH syndrome and they never accept better KDE counter parts, but reinvent on their own (and obviously worse). Let's see what gnome messed up this time:

                              - brand new user interface for gedit - it means gedit is now unusable,
                              - epiphany browser enhancements - nobody uses it,
                              - many additions to clutter - look above,
                              - greater facebook integration - no comment,
                              - no polish to gnome's hell - still unusable nightmare

                              And Honton troll claims gnome brings more features than KDE. KDE updates usually bring wanted features not some facebook crap or gedit (tablet edition).

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