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  • #16
    The small icons for status are already part of GNOME.

    The analog clock is nice. Now dump Plasma.

    The side bar is a duplicate of Files. The only difference is the header icons that duplicate the minimalist icons in Files.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
      This group is new, and for KDE5.
      Not quite. KDE5 doesn't exist. This is for Plasma Next.

      Originally posted by Marc Driftmeyer View Post
      The small icons for status are already part of GNOME.

      The analog clock is nice. Now dump Plasma.

      The side bar is a duplicate of Files. The only difference is the header icons that duplicate the minimalist icons in Files.
      What does that have to do with anything?

      If they "dump Plasma", then they also dump the analog clock Plasma is the graphical UI of KDE, just like GNOME Shell is for GNOME. They can't drop it because otherwise there won't be much left.

      The side bar is Dolphin, and it was there before Files even existed.

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      • #18
        Dumping Plasma

        Why would the KDE project dump Plasma at this point? It definitely had its warts during the KDE 4.x series but it is being redone for the KDE 5 SC releases. Plasma was and is very innovative and because of this the initial implementation had some rough points. Plasma Workspaces 2 should fix most of the bottlenecks that the technology has had to this point. It will also allow the KDE project to have their own tablet, phone, touch, desktop, and media center UI's while reusing most of the same code.

        I'm very excited about the KDE 5 projects because they are taking many of the ambitious ideas that they implemented during the KDE4 series and refining them into even better and more useful projects and versions in the future. Akonadi is being redone a bit and the lessons learned from the KDE implementation of NEPOMUK has resulted in a Baloo. I'm looking forward to great things to come for KDE this year.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Kostas View Post
          I like what I see but for me it's a case of focusing on the tree and missing the forest.
          The icons are just one of many different things they are working on.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Prescience500 View Post
            Aww...I love the old, colorful icons. It's one of the things that originally drew me to KDE. I hope the leave the old theme as an option.
            Nothing ever really dies in KDE. You can still install the old KDE2 era icons if you like. After half a decade it might get moved to an optional download through the hot-new-stuff api.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
              Keep in mind that if you're basing your opinion off of the current oxygen theme that this new theme they're designing to be the default has absolutely nothing to do with the oxygen styling.
              Any links to either extensive screenshots or at least design mock-ups?

              Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
              This group is new, and for KDE5.
              Quite interesting.

              Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
              Just what exactly do you think they should be doing differently?
              Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
              If you think they are missing something, please go tell them. The forums are quite open to user suggestions, as long as you are willing to back them up with concrete examples and not just trolling.
              I realize the tone was a bit troll-ish but I'm simply one of the many people who think KDE's style looks absolutely terrible (I mainly have the DE and the various famous KDE apps in mind) but the tales of good, mature and clean code (to the best of my knowledge, no such thing exists on the GTK side of the fence) make me wish it had something resembling competent design.

              Originally posted by TheBlackCat View Post
              The icons are just one of many different things they are working on.
              Emphasis on the many I guess. I've seen quite a few KDE people reluctantly admit that the icons may not be the best but everything else is just fine which was IMO absurd.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Kostas View Post
                Any links to either extensive screenshots or at least design mock-ups?
                I'm not part of the design group and they've only shared a few screenshots with the general public so far however the initial posts and follow-ups have indicated a complete break with oxygen to create a new theme for KDE.

                Originally posted by Kostas View Post
                I realize the tone was a bit troll-ish but I'm simply one of the many people who think KDE's style looks absolutely terrible (I mainly have the DE and the various famous KDE apps in mind) but the tales of good, mature and clean code (to the best of my knowledge, no such thing exists on the GTK side of the fence) make me wish it had something resembling competent design.

                Emphasis on the many I guess. I've seen quite a few KDE people reluctantly admit that the icons may not be the best but everything else is just fine which was IMO absurd.
                I've never understood this, but just what exactly do you think is wrong with the current style, give specific examples, and you might also want to try to join the design group to help them in their new styling.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
                  Not quite. KDE5 doesn't exist. This is for Plasma Next.



                  What does that have to do with anything?

                  If they "dump Plasma", then they also dump the analog clock Plasma is the graphical UI of KDE, just like GNOME Shell is for GNOME. They can't drop it because otherwise there won't be much left.

                  The side bar is Dolphin, and it was there before Files even existed.
                  It's a pig and those Plasma Widgets are poor stepchildren attempting to be useful ala OS X but often just massive drains on the system.

                  If you can't get an analog clock drawn on the screen I suggest they study Quartz Extreme and get the ability of Display PDF.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Marc Driftmeyer View Post
                    It's a pig and those Plasma Widgets are poor stepchildren attempting to be useful ala OS X but often just massive drains on the system.
                    That would be true if plasma widgets were just tacked on top of an ordinary desktop. But that is not how plasma works. In plasma everything, including the desktop and panel themselves, is a widget. Further, widgets don't need to know or care whether they appear in the panel, on the desktop, on the screen locker, on a tablet, on a phone, or on a TV. You write a widget once and plasma makes sure it is handled correctly (although of course you can tweak it for specific form-factors if you want).

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
                      I'm not part of the design group and they've only shared a few screenshots with the general public so far however the initial posts and follow-ups have indicated a complete break with oxygen to create a new theme for KDE.

                      I've never understood this, but just what exactly do you think is wrong with the current style, give specific examples, and you might also want to try to join the design group to help them in their new styling.
                      for me... fairy, shiny blue, too much blue and really bland/tasteless default widget theme. this theme on the other hand fixes 90% of my complaints. if they changed default widgets to some slick one, i'd be on board.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by justmy2cents View Post
                        for me... fairy, shiny blue, too much blue and really bland/tasteless default widget theme. this theme on the other hand fixes 90% of my complaints. if they changed default widgets to some slick one, i'd be on board.
                        KF5 will have a brand new theme, saw some screenshots and pretty slick!

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