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  • #16
    Originally posted by GraysonPeddie View Post
    Yeah, that's true. I wonder who use Bluetooth devices with their computers? Desktop computers?
    I do on my desktop everyday. I have my phone stream audio through a2dp and then it comes out my headphones on my computer, that way I get all the audio from my computer and my phone while I work.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by GraysonPeddie View Post
      I really don't have a need for PulseAudio. All I have is JACK and an ALSA Loopback interface for ALSA-applications that connects through JACK and through my sound card.

      The problem with PulseAudio is it takes up CPU resources that it does not need.
      I used to have this very same setup. And you know what? Pulseaudio does a much better job redirecting audio to jack than alsa does. Fiddling with asound.conf and having to deal with buggy alsa-utils isn't fun. As a bonus, pulseaudio alsa emulation seems to be more compatible than just plain alsa, and you get to chose a high quality re-sampler instead of the passable one in alsa's dmix.

      Aside from all this, there are now a bunch of applications that either work better with pulseaudio, like wine (even tough it uses alsa!), or only work with pulseaudio, like valve games.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by GraysonPeddie View Post
        Yeah, that's true. I wonder who use Bluetooth devices with their computers? Desktop computers?
        Think Bluetooth headsets, for use with Skype and other voice apps. Very useful, compared to the alternative - tethering yourself to the computer via a wire attached to your headset.

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        • #19
          While the systemd journal is now supported by PulseAudio
          Wait, what? I thought journald was supposed to be a drop in replacement for syslog. Now they're saying apps have to be ported to the new logging system?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by gigaplex View Post
            Wait, what? I thought journald was supposed to be a drop in replacement for syslog. Now they're saying apps have to be ported to the new logging system?
            It is and they don't have to be but you can pass more information if you use the native APIs.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by gigaplex View Post
              Wait, what? I thought journald was supposed to be a drop in replacement for syslog. Now they're saying apps have to be ported to the new logging system?
              Using systemd journal will already provide much more info than syslog+sysvinit when the app uses syslog interface (or even just stdout/stderr). Those interfaces have no way of providing fine-grained structured logging, so that requires using the native systemd interface. Completely optional, but very useful.

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              • #22
                Problems with games, with pepper flash, with skype, with vlc..., pulseaudio is the firt reason because I won't use linux every day.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by pandev92 View Post
                  Problems with games, with pepper flash, with skype, with vlc..., pulseaudio is the firt reason because I won't use linux every day.
                  In other words, mostly due to problems with proprietary software?..

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by pandev92 View Post
                    Problems with games, with pepper flash, with skype, with vlc..., pulseaudio is the firt reason because I won't use linux every day.
                    Is is still like that? Problems with audio on various Linux games was one reason I stopped using it on a regular basis. Though I'm still interested in how well these things work nowadays but I don't take time to test it out myself. So is it still like that you have to fiddle around to get such apps working with sound correctly? (honest question)

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Delgarde View Post
                      Think Bluetooth headsets, for use with Skype and other voice apps. Very useful, compared to the alternative - tethering yourself to the computer via a wire attached to your headset.
                      Wired has the upside of being more stable, more universal, being cheaper, having slightly less latency, better quality, no background noise, no potential health issues due to wireless thing near your brain for hours.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
                        In other words, mostly due to problems with proprietary software?..
                        VLC is not proprietary.
                        VLC also has no problems with PA here.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by M1AU View Post
                          Is is still like that? Problems with audio on various Linux games was one reason I stopped using it on a regular basis. Though I'm still interested in how well these things work nowadays but I don't take time to test it out myself. So is it still like that you have to fiddle around to get such apps working with sound correctly? (honest question)
                          It's been years since I've had any sound issue in Linux with Pulse, but then I don't have a very fancy set-up.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by pandev92 View Post
                            Problems with games, with pepper flash, with skype, with vlc..., pulseaudio is the firt reason because I won't use linux every day.
                            Flash is the sole reason I have to use PulseAudio. Flash is hardcoded to use the first sound card. Too bad on my Lenovo laptop the first output is HDMI, not the internal PCH.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Michael
                              The major features of PulseAudio 5.0 include BlueZ 5 support with the A2DP profile, provides a reimplementation of the tunnel modules, native log target support for the systemd-journal, various small changes, and many bug-fixes.
                              Mistakenly left word "provides", as well as a strange summary of "various small changes" and "many bug-fixes" providing two "major new features".

                              Originally posted by Grogan View Post
                              So I've either got to compile myself a 32 bit SDL stack without pulse present, install the entire i386 pulseaudio and deal with that to prevent it from starting, or just forget the old game.
                              Even in "beginner distros" like Ubuntu you can ignore the dependency hell in a fairly simple manner: https://serverfault.com/questions/25...e-dependencies

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by liam View Post
                                Are you joking? With laptops it's not uncommon for people to use wireless mice, in general, and a keyboard when connected to external monitors. When traveling, you can use your phone as a modem though making it a hotspot makes more sense until bluez gets 3.0 HS support.
                                Personally I make use of bt headphones.
                                I don't use bluetooth on Linux because bluez command line is 5.0 and all the gui apps for bluez are still 4.0. Can't really use it if I need to pair and discover devices on command line.

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