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    Phoronix: Say Hello To The "KDE Leaks" Team

    Well, it turns out there's some KDE stakeholders are unsatisfied with the coverage of their desktop coverage found on Phoronix...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTYwODU

  • #2
    quantity does equal over quantity does survive if you want to survive
    Speaking of corrections, uh what?

    Anyways, don't let the haters get to you. I still find this site to be a valuable source of Linux/OSS news.

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    • #3
      what the hell...?

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      • #4
        Ha ha ha ha ha

        I'm not sure why exactly, but this article cracks me up.

        FWIW, Michael, I've never really thought you were anti-KDE. Although I do get the impression you don't care much about it one way or the other. Which is fine.

        Oh, and: Death to Nepomuk!

        That name just sounds ugly, always has and always will. And it's got a terrible reputation by the end users. There's no reason to keep it.
        Last edited by smitty3268; 02-19-2014, 12:50 AM.

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        • #5
          Michael, you should go easy on the beer when you still have articles to write.
          This thing is almost unreadable.

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          • #6
            The person who sent you that email is very confused. There are pretty much two main differences between Baloo and Nepomuk. The first is Baloo doesn't store what Akonadai (one of KDE's babies, I mean pillars) and the other is that Baloo does not use RDF. Nepomuk is NOT a KDE created concept. The ideas were borrowed to create a Qt/kdelibs based implementation. Baloo uses an alternative means of storage and thus, Baloo is no longer a Nepomuk implementation. It's sort of like forking Firefox, you are no longer eligible to use the trademark.

            I explained this in the third page of the last thread but everyone ignored my comment. I guess a 110+ comment thread was "absolutely necessary". (That's why I put my main points in bold this time.)

            Also, in this post by Martin Grlin, Nepomuk-kde maintainer explained why he chose a new name for KDE's semantic desktop:

            Originally posted by Vishesh Handa
            +Marius Orcsik We wanted to stop relying on RDF. Tracker also uses RDF and the Nepomuk ontologies. This is also the main reason for the name change.

            Nepomuk = Networked Environment for personalized Ontology based management of unified knowledge
            Last edited by CTown; 02-19-2014, 01:00 AM.

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            • #7
              Leaks Team

              They look like alligators from the swamp to me. Next time I visit the Everglades, I'll
              take some beer along to keep them happy.

              Truthfully, though, I've never met an alligator that used KDE - I always thought that
              they used XFCE.

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              • #8
                What a useless piece of passive aggression.

                Michael, you do provide a valuable service, but like jntesteves said, you should try to do it sober.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jntesteves View Post
                  Michael, you should go easy on the beer when you still have articles to write.
                  This thing is almost unreadable.
                  For some reason I was reading the article with a drunk Michaelian voice and it was a match for the style of writing ))))

                  Truthfully, though, I've never met an alligator that used KDE - I always thought that
                  they used XFCE.
                  It is the rodents that use XFCE

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                  • #10
                    So where exacly is the you being anti-KDE in the email that you have posted?

                    They are setting a record straight and you need to friggin' check you damn facts before posting articles. Almost anything beside the benchmarking on here is crap. Your coverage of what various projects might be doing is based on skimming the mailing lists and then presenting proposals as facts. Language barrier? Laziness? I haven't he foggiest.

                    I understand the rush to put out content... but in your case, more is less since the information you provide is partialy incorrect and then various projects need to scramble to correct mistakes in your "reporting".

                    Decide if you want your site to be a rumour mill or a proper place to get accurate info.

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                    • #11
                      Agree with "who_me": quality control of news articles could be better (along with less notifications about rather boring things). Maybe you should get someone from the relevant mailing list to proof-read stuff like this?

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                      • #12
                        KDE and Phoronix

                        I think that Michael does a great job withing the Linux / FOSS community. That he does not always write articles that others love comes with the territory.

                        I can read and appreciate both his tests and others arguments AGAINST said tests. Without being rude.

                        There have been a long, and I think, very frank discussion within the KDE community about the underlying technologies of the akonadi and nepomuk system. If a very talented coder wants to replace parts of it I can see no "we are trying to hide our huge mistake" or something. I just see someone finding something they think is better and suggesting that as a replacement. As a new or improved filesystem, as KDE4/5 instead of KDE3 and so on.

                        Maybe just cool it on the Conspiracy Theories?? And flames against a dedicated fan of FOSS?

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                        • #13
                          As we seem to have KDE devs in this thread, I hope this isn't too far off here.

                          The article about ballo and nepomuk encouraged me to review the akoadi config on my laptop - on the desktop I'm just fine having akonadi always started when I'm logged in to KDE because I always run kontact. On my 12" ThinkPad Edge E145 (Kabini Dualcore) though, I only start it when I want to read mails, and thus, akonadi doesn't need to be started at every login. It only eats battery and startup time then, even delaying the background image (which actually is a 30-minute-GL-slideshow) by several seconds. So I set ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc -> StartServer=false (defaults to "true")

                          Now login is much quicker, fan doesn't speed up at login anymore, background image is there immediately, great! Yet now, when I start kmail or kontact, it tries to trigger akonadi, waits for like a minute ... and then fails! When I look at akonadi, it says it couldn't be started.

                          The only way to circumvent this is to edit ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc -> StartServer=true and THEN start kmail / kontact. No problems then, everything's easy. Yet I don't want to edit akonadiserverrc EVERY time I want to start kmail (or perheaps write a wrapper script would also not be a healthy solution) and again after stopping kmail or logout, couldn't there be a StartServer Option like "auto" or "ondemand"? I think, back in the days (or some predecessor framework) worked just like this.

                          Please, folks

                          Me being an almost always satisfied* KDE user since (pre-) 1.0 btw, great job guys!
                          *4.1, 4.2 (yepp 4.0 was beta I know) transition was a little tough 4.3 finally came back to being usable
                          Last edited by edgar_wibeau; 02-19-2014, 04:02 AM.

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                          • #14
                            So in other words, you are going to have unpaid people skimming public mailing lists for more stuff that you can hastily throw on the site without properly research or understanding it. Yeah, that is going to be great.

                            I also find it ironic that people are accusing KDE of having closed-doors discussions on a public mailing list.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by edgar_wibeau View Post
                              As we seem to have KDE devs in this thread, I hope this isn't too far off here.

                              The article about ballo and nepomuk encouraged me to review the akoadi config on my laptop - on the desktop I'm just fine having akonadi always started when I'm logged in to KDE because I always run kontact. On my 12" ThinkPad Edge E145 (Kabini Dualcore) though, I only start it when I want to read mails, and thus, akonadi doesn't need to be started at every login. It only eats battery and startup time then, even delaying the background image (which actually is a 30-minute-GL-slideshow) by several seconds. So I set ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc -> StartServer=false (defaults to "true")

                              Now login is much quicker, fan doesn't speed up at login anymore, background image is there immediately, great! Yet now, when I start kmail or kontact, it tries to trigger akonadi, waits for like a minute ... and then fails! When I look at akonadi, it says it couldn't be started.

                              The only way to circumvent this is to edit ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc -> StartServer=true and THEN start kmail / kontact. No problems then, everything's easy. Yet I don't want to edit akonadiserverrc EVERY time I want to start kmail (or perheaps write a wrapper script would also not be a healthy solution) and again after stopping kmail or logout, couldn't there be a StartServer Option like "auto" or "ondemand"? I think, back in the days (or some predecessor framework) worked just like this.

                              Please, folks

                              Me being an almost always satisfied* KDE user since (pre-) 1.0 btw, great job guys!
                              *4.1, 4.2 (yepp 4.0 was beta I know) transition was a little tough 4.3 finally came back to being usable
                              I'm not a KDE dev but if I'm remember correct akonadi is only started on demand. You need to remove everything that try to start akonadi when you don't use it. I think the calendar/clock plasmoid in the right corner starts akonadi to get event integration. I think they have a setting there somewhere to inactivate the akonadi integration in the calendar plasmoid.

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