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  • #11
    Originally posted by Rexilion View Post
    I was more referring to NT on other architecture's. The only other MicroSuck OS (for what I know of) was XP on Itanium machines.
    They are back on ARM now, both Surface and Phone runs on the NT kernel. Itanium was droped afaik.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Rexilion View Post
      It's only afloat because everyone uses Office documents and Silverlight. I had to install Office 2007 on our main Arch machine to make it usable. They only have profit because they use vendor lockin. That's all. You can see this in their failure to get a hold in the mobile and tabletmarket. And I have yet to see other appliances ran by Windows.
      In fact Microsoft is doing great. It's not just about Office (in fact Office profits are down, so it cannot be what's giving MS record profits). Read this: http://arstechnica.com/information-t...e-for-q2-2014/ (Note the word "beleaguered" in the title is sarcasm).
      Last edited by Pseus; 02-14-2014, 10:10 AM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Rexilion View Post
        It's only afloat because everyone uses Office documents and Silverlight. I had to install Office 2007 on our main Arch machine to make it usable. They only have profit because they use vendor lockin. That's all. You can see this in their failure to get a hold in the mobile and tabletmarket. And I have yet to see other appliances ran by Windows.
        Yeah, but the vendor lock-in works. It's highly profitable. Everyone hates Windows 8, but it's at over 200million copies sold. It's almost comical, every time I read some analyst writing that we're in a Post-PC world I wonder if they wrote that article on a tablet (answer: no).

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        • #14
          uhu... wow?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Rexilion View Post
            It's only afloat because everyone uses Office documents and Silverlight. I had to install Office 2007 on our main Arch machine to make it usable. They only have profit because they use vendor lockin. That's all. You can see this in their failure to get a hold in the mobile and tabletmarket. And I have yet to see other appliances ran by Windows.



            I was more referring to NT on other architecture's. The only other MicroSuck OS (for what I know of) was XP on Itanium machines.



            So even after imitating the competition, they are not capable of pulling it off. Despite the large amount of manpower/cash.

            EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I think Windows is a nice OS for most people. I just fail to see the justification for their marketshare relative to their 'innovations'.
            First of all, being in the middle of this period down in Silicon Valley [working at NeXT] while friends were at SGI, Sun, etc., Microsoft never had any intentions of spanning NT across all platforms. They did a bait and switch. The intent was to create cross-platform with minimal support on MIPS, Alpha and PPC while mainlining all support on X86, specifically to get a footing into the Enterprise Markets.

            It worked. DEC went tits up and got absorbed by COMPAQ which got absorbed by HP, SGI went bankrupt and PPC really got curtailed.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by danwood76 View Post
              Mainstream Windows has been NT based since windows 2000......
              That was the case for enterprise systems (workstation and server).
              Home users only got the NT treat one iteration later, under the form of Windows XP Home. That's the point when NT really got mainstream.
              Meanwhile, back at the time of windows 2000, instead of having an NT-based OS, home users had... gasp... Windows ME. Ouch!
              And then one wonder why the sudden rush to Windows XP...

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              • #17
                Originally posted by nils_ View Post
                Struggling? Hardly. It's still a very profitable company, even with the many failed products.
                You could have said the same about SGI, even into the NT era.

                My computing purchases from 1997 (when I bought my first PC) to 2007 were:

                1. Windows, dual-booting Linux.
                2. Windows
                3. Windows
                4. Windows

                My computing purchases from 2008 to today have been:

                1. Linux
                2. Linux
                3. Windows, replaced by Linux
                4. Windows, replaced by Linux
                5. Linux
                6. Linux
                7. Android
                8. Windows
                9. Android
                10. IOS

                I think that says enough about where Windows is going. The Windows 7 PC is by far the most powerful in the house, but it only gets booted when I have an hour free to play games.

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