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    Phoronix: GTK+ In GNOME 3.12 Gets New "Popovers" Feature

    The latest GTK+ tool-kit code in development for GNOME 3.12 brings a new GtkPopovers widget...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTU4MDI

  • #2
    Great, as if popovers in web pages wouldn't be obtrusive enough, we now can also get them in native GUI's too.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by nanonyme View Post
      Great, as if popovers in web pages wouldn't be obtrusive enough, we now can also get them in native GUI's too.
      Yes, but popovers are better than info/warning dialogs which are new windows, and that makes popovers an improvement, at least it saves windows management/clutter.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mark45 View Post
        Yes, but popovers are better than info/warning dialogs which are new windows, and that makes popovers an improvement, at least it saves windows management/clutter.
        I believe you get that through an existent extension which allows dialogs to be joined to the calling window (that's in mutter at least).

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        • #5
          Bootstrap

          So these is like popovers in Bootstrap?

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          • #6
            And here I thought it was these popovers.

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            • #7
              I wonder if that would allow the same thing that Dirk Hohndel demoed in his Qt Subsurface presentation where an infobox next to the cursor would always show the relevant data to that datapoint.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                So these is like popovers in Bootstrap?
                Probably not. What it seems like to me is that it's more for situations like "help >> about" dialogues that currently create an entirely new window just to show some information about the application that already uses a window. With popovers, it probably creates a box without window decorations inside of the current window that goes away if you click outside of it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by liam View Post
                  I believe you get that through an existent extension which allows dialogs to be joined to the calling window (that's in mutter at least).
                  Which is why it was moved to (core) Gtk, to not have to learn to check/use/install the extension everywhere else where Gtk works (mac/bsd/windows, kde/etc), because it's much easier to create your own popover than learning to manage that extension on other platforms/environments.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mark45 View Post
                    Yes, but popovers are better than info/warning dialogs...
                    Except if they work like they do in OSX, where you can't move/resize the popover out of the way to check the contents of the window before making a decision. In the case where the popover presents options and to make a decision you have to remember what was being displayed in the main window.

                    But, I think these popovers are not like that, and actually look like something well designed and useful. It's for things that would not be done with a info/warning dialog at all, but more like a tooltip on mouse over: http://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2014/...-now-popovers/

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                    • #11
                      It's pretty obvious that these so-called "popovers" are meant for tablets and mobile phones, as can been seen in this picture:

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by devius View Post
                        Except if they work like they do in OSX, where you can't move/resize the popover out of the way to check the contents of the window before making a decision. In the case where the popover presents options and to make a decision you have to remember what was being displayed in the main window.

                        But, I think these popovers are not like that, and actually look like something well designed and useful. It's for things that would not be done with a info/warning dialog at all, but more like a tooltip on mouse over: http://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2014/...-now-popovers/
                        VLC and ProjectM are examples of similar behavior on Linux, where the preferences window is locked on top of the main window; forcing you to close it before knowing what you've actually done. I cannot even begin to describe the hate I feel towards it.

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                        • #13
                          Popovers does sound more like a roll than a UI feature. They basically look like interactive tooltips. I think they should be called intertips. Almost sounds dirty.

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