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  • #31
    Retarded

    This looks retarded. It looks confusing and unproductive.
    It looks like its made for tablets or smartphones or something.

    But no tablet or smartphone runs GNOME.
    This is useless.

    This is a huge step backwards.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Pajn View Post
      That's just awful.
      And why would I move my mouse across the whole screen to first save a file and then open another one?
      This^^^

      I am not sure GNOME has any UI/UX experts. It seems that they got some anti-experts, actually. Damn I used to like GNOME.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by kigurai View Post
        So, you always click the mouse on undo, redo, cut, paste, copy and search. You don't use keyboard shortcuts?
        Do you get the basic idea of GUIs? They should simplify (no, I don't mean in the GNOME moron way) actions you'd normally need to use your keyboard for, even if only out of ergonomy. Do you use shortcuts to go forth and back in firefox? Well I don't care because 99% of the people do so. Sometimes I am just to lazy to use my keyboard and just use some of the luxury of our modern technology. And don't tell me lazyness isn't an attitude of the human kind. Our lazyness lets us develope new technologies for our ease of use.
        You don't need buttons? Screw it! go back to stone age and use your Linux in text mode! I'm all for it, but the GNOME way is just not making any sense. They simplify by making logical actions complicated - well it's their ALIEN way of understanding "simplifying".

        Originally posted by uid313 View Post
        This is a huge step backwards.
        +1
        Couldn't have written it better.
        Last edited by Nuc!eoN; 01-13-2014, 06:07 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Nuc!eoN View Post
          Do you use shortcuts to go forth and back in firefox? Well I don't care because 99% of the people do so.
          Oops sorry I meant that 99% of the users use the buttons.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by kigurai View Post
            You don't use keyboard shortcuts?
            I use keyboard shortcuts pretty often but a GUI shouldn't need to rely on "hidden" keyboard shortcuts to be productive. This defeats the purpose of having a GUI in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against keyboard shortcuts at all. It is just that a good GUI should provide productive paths for both usage paradigms.

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            • #36
              gnome devs...

              gnome devs making our life worst. like MS devs. i dont see the point of this, but ok i change for another when this shit come out

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              • #37
                Originally posted by dalingrin View Post
                I use keyboard shortcuts pretty often but a GUI shouldn't need to rely on "hidden" keyboard shortcuts to be productive. This defeats the purpose of having a GUI in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against keyboard shortcuts at all. It is just that a good GUI should provide productive paths for both usage paradigms.
                I think most people use some shortcuts for text editors. C-c C-v C-x C-s i s very common even many people without much computer experience use them.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Andrecorreia View Post
                  gnome devs making our life worst. like MS devs. i dont see the point of this, but ok i change for another when this shit come out
                  The point of this is unification an following their HIG. I think there are a few issues with their idea but in general I really like the new approach.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Andrecorreia View Post
                    gnome devs making our life worst. like MS devs. i dont see the point of this, but ok i change for another when this shit come out
                    try geany

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                    • #40
                      So I use Kate, here it is without anything open: https://i.imgur.com/To29fh9.png

                      Is that really "cluttered"? The space of a text document in the window is literally around 90% as much space allocated as in this new gedit, but I have dozens of other circumstantial tools to use that, while plugins, are at my fingertips.

                      And if I used the menu-in-the-title-bar KDE option I'd have some more space back.

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                      • #41
                        I use nano and i3 but

                        Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                        This looks retarded. It looks confusing and unproductive.
                        It looks like its made for tablets or smartphones or something.

                        But no tablet or smartphone runs GNOME.
                        This is useless.

                        This is a huge step backwards.
                        Yes, i agree, and they are stealing concept from IOS...

                        but a text editor is not the same like an app notes, gnome devs are so dumbs

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by zanny View Post
                          So I use Kate, here it is without anything open: https://i.imgur.com/To29fh9.png

                          Is that really "cluttered"?
                          yes.

                          You may be used to it, but that is a lot of buttons everywhere.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by You- View Post
                            yes.

                            You may be used to it, but that is a lot of buttons everywhere.
                            It's not just that it's buttons everywhere... it's that every button has a text caption, making them all take up more space. There are only six active buttons on the main toolbar, but they take up half the screen. As a result, yeah, it does look cluttered - more so even than an IDE like Eclipse with far more buttons and toolbars.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Delgarde View Post
                              It's not just that it's buttons everywhere... it's that every button has a text caption, making them all take up more space. There are only six active buttons on the main toolbar, but they take up half the screen. As a result, yeah, it does look cluttered - more so even than an IDE like Eclipse with far more buttons and toolbars.
                              The captions are optional. Having them on improves usability since you know exactly what each button does at a glance. But you have the option of turning them off to save space (as well as change icon size).

                              Also, Kate isn't a really good comparison, KWrite is the KDE counterpart to Gedit.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Nuc!eoN View Post
                                Do you get the basic idea of GUIs? They should simplify (no, I don't mean in the GNOME moron way) actions you'd normally need to use your keyboard for, even if only out of ergonomy. Do you use shortcuts to go forth and back in firefox? Well I don't care because 99% of the people do so. Sometimes I am just to lazy to use my keyboard and just use some of the luxury of our modern technology. And don't tell me lazyness isn't an attitude of the human kind. Our lazyness lets us develope new technologies for our ease of use.
                                You don't need buttons? Screw it! go back to stone age and use your Linux in text mode! I'm all for it, but the GNOME way is just not making any sense. They simplify by making logical actions complicated - well it's their ALIEN way of understanding "simplifying".
                                No, but switching tabs is different from the actions I was talkng about. I know that Ctrl-Z will undo my last changes to the current document. And I know that Ctrl-F will open the search entry for the current document. Pressing a button in this case requires me to stop looking at my document and focus on the GUI. Therefore, *I* see no use for a button that does this. People who don't know the keyboard shortcuts (honestly, who doesn't?) I assume can easily find the actions in the cog-menu.

                                Switching tabs in a web browser is different. I actually do this for some pages, since I usually keep a few tabs open in the same order such that I know that Alt-1 brings me to e-mail, Alt-2 to calendar, and so on. For other pages, I don't know what number they are on, so I would have to look and see.

                                To give a counter question, do you think *all* possible gedit actions should be available directly, as a button, on the toolbar? Otherwise, what is wrong with removing some buttons that I am certain most people never click?

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