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  • Digia Is Planning Enginio Cloud Data Storage For Qt 5.3

    Phoronix: Digia Is Planning Enginio Cloud Data Storage For Qt 5.3

    Digia is planning to introduce Enginio cloud data storage support into the Qt 5.3 tool-kit release...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTU2MTc

  • #2
    Bloat

    Cloud in a widget toolkit?
    Sounds like bloat!

    Soon Qt is gigabytes...

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    • #3
      ...It's no better than having Facebook Connect support in the password box. This kids is why having a for-profit company responsible for a major component is bad.

      Or make that "for-profit company that's in a different business". RH or Cygnus haven't yet pulled shit like this.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by uid313 View Post
        Cloud in a widget toolkit?
        Sounds like bloat!

        Soon Qt is gigabytes...
        Fortunately Qt 5 is modular, so you don't have to compile or deal with modules you don't use. No different from QML for widget users, or multimedia or positioning for developers that doesn't need that.

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        • #5
          Obscure

          Originally posted by phoronix View Post
          Digia is planning to introduce Enginio cloud data storage support into the Qt 5.3 tool-kit release...
          I don't understand their business model.

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          • #6
            In this case, if someone wants to store and manage some services (like gigabytes of storage) in the cloud, he can do it using the related Qt libraries.

            Like it was previously said, if someone doesn't need it, he doesn't have to use it.

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            • #7
              > a widget toolkit?

              In http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/qdoc/qtmodules.html we can see more modules, not only widgets; like Core (non-graphical classes), Multimedia, Sql, Network, etc.

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              • #8
                Another subject is that having the information of someone "on the cloud" can be problematic (if someone has his information "on the cloud" and tomorrow he can't use internet, or if it was illegal that his information was there because it was also related to other people, or if a company is bought by another, etc.)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Nth_man View Post
                  Another subject is that having the information of someone "on the cloud" can be problematic (if someone has his information "on the cloud" and tomorrow he can't use internet, or if it was illegal that his information was there because it was also related to other people, or if a company is bought by another, etc.)
                  IOW "on the cloud" means your access can be restricted, your data read, deleted or changed. And it's your fault.

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                  • #10
                    $149.00/month for 10 GB and 1,000,000 I/O events? This is not price competitive at all.

                    Compare Amazon S3: 10 GB, 1 GB out/month (in is always free), 250,000 put/copy/post/list events, 750,000 get events: $2.50/month! Even if you add in the use of a database service, you'd still be looking at somewhere between $10-$20/month. Who in the world would use Enginio at the prices they're listing?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Honton View Post
                      Well, Qt is a business, no one can deny that. Being open source or Linux friendly is only a temporarily thing. Anyway Qt is more than a widget toolkit these days, it is more like a framework covering all sorts of platforms and kernels. That will always conflict with the best interests of free Linux platform. Digia is lucky though, the social bribing going to KDE is paying off very well. Qt is more monolithic than anything else. Everything is scooped and put under the coplyleft killing CLA. Still no one questions the motives of Qt. KDE surrenders code from the kdelibs. this means part of former KDE copyleft code is being CLAed and monolithic. It is quite interesting to watch. Compare that to systemd.

                      The commercial Qt grows like monolithic cancer and kills off copyleft for commercial purposes, and people like that.
                      The community based Systemd grows monolitchic for the sake of keeping maintenance cost and overall complexity low, and people hate that.

                      It is a matter of social bribing.
                      Regardless how often you repeat your blatant lies, Qt is still licensed LGPL, which clearly is a copyleft license. Go troll somewhere else or, just for one time, go out and try to get a life.

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                      • #12
                        GPL and LGPL

                        The GPL and LGPL achieve that Qt is free/libre software, anyone can use Qt, modify it, and create his version if he wants to.

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                        • #13
                          The GPL and LGPL achieve that Qt is free/libre software, anyone can use Qt, modify it, and create his version if he wants to.
                          Once it's clear, then what about that "Qt and Qt Free edition is not the same" statement? Like it already has been told:
                          There is only Qt, so Digia never mentions those different products on their website. Every single announcement Digia made only talks about "Qt". If someone has stumbled across something vaguely related, he for sure has read a very, very old announcement inherited from Trolltech.
                          Last edited by Nth_man; 01-07-2014, 05:52 AM.

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                          • #14
                            I'm a developer and I use Qt extensively, I use it because it's a top-class cross-platform application framework - I also use it because there's nothing that comes close it.

                            I don't understand all the Digia hate - they're acting as a normal company! Shouldn't those in the FOSS community who vehemently hate CLAs be asking themselves - what happened to the alternatives? Specifically what happened to wxWidgets? It used to have near feature-parity, but now it's virtually unused; in fact a major new version of it was launched recently - to zero fanfare.

                            Perhaps it's because allowing CLAs struck a happy medium in the licensing of Qt: it made Qt Commercial's existence viable, which it turn funded the vast majority of the development in recent times - hence why it has bounded forward technologically and spread to more and more OSs. What is it about CLAs that people hate so much?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Honton View Post
                              Do you really believe you can find answer in marketing bullshit downloaded from Digia? You need to look at the license agreements and the Qt Free foundation. It is very clear that both Digia and KDE agrees there is a difference.
                              Please tell us how many lines of code are different between the LPGL and commercial versions of Qt.

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