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  • #11
    Originally posted by brosis View Post
    Buy Bluray disc.
    Lay it to side, as you also purchased the right to play.
    Torrent the video you need in bluray quality.

    If you sell the disc, your legal right is waived, so don't do that.
    If you're within the US, going to get in lots of trouble promoting the distribution of copyrighted material.

    Last time I checked within the US with a lawyer, merrily trying to watch your purchased copyrighted material was not against the law. Hence, it does go against the product license to try to break the encryption, but the seller did sell you the product with the intent of you watching correct? And is the owner of the material or the State going to complain as long as you're not exploiting the unencrypted material? However, distruting or profiting likely is, as you already mentioned. And merrily laying the unprotected copy aside for kids to access, justifies the "Ignorantia juris non excusat" or ignorance is not an excuse. (Hence, you can be guilty of distributing by carelessly leaving the unprotected media around the house with kids sharing with their friends.) Best to just refer people to lawyers if they have any questions when concerning what they can and cannot do with copyrighted material, or laws in general

    However, as with most others, I & others tend to boycott the the Blu-ray industry or refrain from purchasing such items due to the overly zealous approach of copyrighting tactics. With DVD's, I never copied them unless the disk was damaged, which was rare if ever! Now with Blu-ray Movies, I have to copy every one and use makemkv in order to decrypt and watch. (This wastes hours of time, and incurs much frustration with my Linux operating system.) While in the process, I do make an unencrypted copy so I don't have to repeatedly perform this process over and over. A complete waste of mine and other innocent peoples' time! (Besides, it wastes energy to have to unencrypt media over and over, albeit little due to processors having hardware acceleration.)


    • #12
      Originally posted by Serafean View Post
      Hi, I watch the couple bluray disks I have almost hassle free.
      I followed the archwiki steps (libbluray, libaacs, putting KEYDB.CFG into the right place), then when I insert a BD I mount it, and xbmc plays it back no trouble. With mplayer you have to specify the mount directory. It's all on the wiki. (never tried with vlc) ... To sum up : you do not need to crack it, but buying any new BD is a risk of losing the ability to watch the ones you already own without hunting for new keys... real fun Serafean.
      Those keys were revoked for the past year or so. People can no longer watch Blu-ray movies on Linux for the past year or so. Makemkv is the only, and last option for Linux users for watching Blu-ray movies. (I just don't like doing anything in Windows, and find life much easier within a Linux based operating system.)


      • #13
        I absolutely do not understand why anyone bothers to even buy these discs.

        If it's that hard to use them LEGALLY... what's the point?


        • #14
          Kind of ironic since the first Blu-Ray player was basically an Intel PC with a Blu-Ray drive running Linux and almost all Blu-Ray players since 2008 are running embedded Linux.


          • #15
            Sounds ironic, but it makes sense. The reason why you can't just watch Blu-ray movies on Linux is due to the usual case of OSS and DRM not living well together. To play back Blu-ray movies, VLC would have to buy a key from the Blu-ray consortium, and then not disclose the key to anyone which kind of goes against the whole notion of an OSS video player. Even then, the consortium wouldn't give VLC the key until they implement the whole HDCP support (so it only plays the video if your graphics card, cable and monitor are all secure), making sure it can't be disabled (again, not possible in OSS). Meanwhile, the Linux-based Blu-ray players have custom proprietary software that was certified by the Blu-ray consortium.

            Technically someone would be able to create a closed-source Linux application that implements all the DRM that the Blu-ray consortium requires, then buy a key from them, and then Linux users would be able to play Blu-ray movies. But nobody is interested, because users would view such software with suspicion, and they key costs quite a bit, I think.


            • #16
              I wouldn't even think of spending a cent on a video player to get bluray working. Really, why should I?
              The point is, I want a OSS solution. I totally don't care about broken DRM. I want to crack the discs, I want to store the movie on my HDDs. I want to play them everywhere on every of my devices if I bought ther movie/whatever on bluray. And of course I want nto make backups because it is my right to do so.

              Heck, every person in the world knows that DRM is antisocial overcapitalistic and sometimes(mostly?) even abusing crap.
              But this is another story...
              So either there is a good way to ignore it - like DVD with decss - or probably 99% of the linux world will ignore it.

              But as I see, the solutions are on the way. Sooner or later it will work as it works with DVD.

              Thank you all for your answers.


              • #17
                Originally posted by rogerx View Post
                Those keys were revoked for the past year or so. People can no longer watch Blu-ray movies on Linux for the past year or so. Makemkv is the only, and last option for Linux users for watching Blu-ray movies. (I just don't like doing anything in Windows, and find life much easier within a Linux based operating system.)
                Pardon if it's a stupid question, but what is Makemkv doing differently?
                Is it really working for all Blu-ray movies?
                Sorry, I have no experience with all that...

                I just read there is makemkv-libaacs package in Arch's AUR.
                According to it transparently
                decodes Blu-rays movies using makemkv and works with libbluray-based players.


                • #18
                  Just gave makemkv-libaacs a try.
                  Installation from AUR was really simple in Arch.

                  Wow! What should I say, it works flawless so far.
                  It takes some time to load - I guess makemkv is doing its magic there - but from then on it works great.

                  As I said, I only have a rather new Blu-ray disc "Cloud Atlas" and a brand new one "The Hobbit" to test.
                  Both work great with mplayer and vlc.

                  makemkv-libaacs seems to be rather new.
                  So before giving up, make sure to give it a try first.


                  • #19
                    So, so far I understand there is already a way to play bluray in vlc just like dvds?

                    I can now slowly consider to get an bluray reader for my desktopcomputer or an external one.

                    Sounds good.


                    • #20
                      From what I gather, in bluray, the DRM is embedded in the bluray disc players themselves - in the actual hardware.

                      This is Defective by Design on a whole new level.

                      So what we need is devices that can read blu-ray discs and bypass that whole DRM thingy. Or a way to modify existing bluray devices into such. So that we can just read the raw data on a blu-ray and rip it. Until that happens, bluray is pointless.