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    Phoronix: Qt 5.2 Final Release Is "Coming Really Soon"

    Digia has provided an update concerning the state of the Qt 5.2 final release, which could be out as soon as next week...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTUzMzA

  • #2
    Also, Qt on android now officially falls under the KDE Free Qt Foundation agreement

    http://www.kdab.com/be-free-qt-on-android/

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Honton View Post
      KDAB is lying. Qt can't be relicensed to BSD. It is only Qt Free Edition.
      Qt Free Edition is Qt licensed under LGPL 2.1 and GPL 3.

      Your arguments have arrived at the point where Qt is not actually Qt. Well done.

      This is a great victory for Free Software. Now our developers can develop GPL software for Android, and have a guarantee that the underlying toolkit will remain Free Software forever.

      If you didn't hate everything that's not GNOME, you would rejoice.

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      • #4
        So no second RC, that is good the hear. Delays are mostly due git code updating problems not code itself then.

        ps. It should be wrote as Jani Heikkinen, first name before surname(Yeah digia's mailing system put those names in silly ordering).

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        • #5
          History strikes back...
          http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...184#post362184
          Read the rest of the answers, please...
          Furthermore: Do you think Linus Torvalds is fighting for software being free?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Honton View Post
            You really should read the agreement. It does NOT cover Qt only "Qt Free Edition". How can a relicense AWAY from GPL be a great victory for Free Software?
            Nothing has been relicensed away from GPL, stop making things up.

            The power to additionally license Qt under any FSF-approved license (including BSD) simply ensures that closing of Qt cannot happen. It removes any and every financial incentive for Digia or any steward of Qt to close the toolking and stop releasing GPL and LGPL versions.

            This guarantee is a win for Free Software. We get dozens of top-notch paid developers working on LGPL and GPL code full time, and we get them for free, with no risk of the tookit being closed. And now we get a guarantee that all this GPL code will also be released for Android, thus making GPL development on that platform easier than ever. Forever.

            That's awesome.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Honton View Post
              Can you explain why you are unable to understand the Free Qt agreement. The agreement does NOT cover Qt, only the Qt Free Edition. KDE would only have the opportunity to relicense the Free Edition, never standard Qt. Please align with reality and understand this.
              You do realize that the Free Edition is what KDE uses anyways, right? So in that sense, from KDE's perspective QT Free == QT. Welcome to reality, try not to get too scared.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Honton View Post
                Can you explain why you are unable to understand the Free Qt agreement. The agreement does NOT cover Qt, only the Qt Free Edition. KDE would only have the opportunity to relicense the Free Edition, never standard Qt. Please align with reality and understand this.
                Nothing HAS BEEN RELICENSED from GPL.

                Has been = present perfect tense. No such thing has happened. My post was 100% correct.

                Qt Free Edition is basically equivalent to the closed version in terms of code. The KDE-Qt agreement ensures that this stays the case.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Honton View Post
                  KDE users being confused about Qt vs QT Free Edition is a reality, yes. But what do anyone gain from all the lying? The reality is KDE have NO power over Qt. RTFA(greement).
                  KDE users understand the situation perfectly.

                  Digia has to keep releasing Qt under GPL and LGPL regularly. If they don't, KDE holds the nuclear destruction button that will nuke their company destroy all of their business forever, destroying commercial Qt forever.

                  The only reason Digia has any business is that Qt is not under BSD, but triple-licensed.

                  Sounds like a good deal to me.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Honton View Post
                    Let me ask you a very simple question. When in effect, does the agreement let KDE relicense the commercial Qt version or the LGPL/GPL Qt version?
                    The two are equivalent, except the license.

                    They are not two different projects with different functionality. It's a single product under three licenses: LGPL, GPL, and a commercial one you have to purchase.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Honton View Post
                      KDAB is lying. Qt can't be relicensed to BSD. It is only Qt Free Edition.
                      I don't think this case is lying in the sense of conveying something that isn't true.
                      For the context of Qt on Android the two concepts cover exactly the same code.

                      So while this is a simplification it doesn't make any difference in the context discussed by the blog entry as far as I can tell.

                      Cheers,
                      _

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Honton View Post
                        Instead of making assertions please answer the question.

                        Does KDE gain the right to relicense the commercial Qt or the just the GPL/LGPLed version for some linux versions and Android?
                        there is no any difference between commercial and GPL'ed releases

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Honton View Post
                          KDE users being confused about Qt vs QT Free Edition is a reality, yes. But what do anyone gain from all the lying? The reality is KDE have NO power over Qt. RTFA(greement).
                          everyone -not only kde- has the right to fork Qt right now and redistribute it under the GPL/LGPL. And if there are differences between Qt commercial and free (which is NOT true) who cares?
                          free software apps use GPL'ed Qt anyway
                          btw windows has a LGPL/GPL release which is identique to Qt "commercial" it's the same code with triple license
                          see /qt5/licenses/
                          Last edited by benalib; 12-03-2013, 03:33 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Honton View Post
                            Instead of making assertions please answer the question.

                            Does KDE gain the right to relicense the commercial Qt or the just the GPL/LGPLed version for some linux versions and Android?
                            qt-free is for the past releases like Qt1,2,3,Qtopia,qtjambi,etc when trolltech had different source repositories for OS and licenses[i explained this to you like 7 times already]

                            since Qt4 nokia simplified all into one big all plataforms GPL repository[except ultra closed platforms like VxWorks that demanded no GPL version for them EVER, or so i heard] and then they just picked up code from that giant repo to compile their commertial versions. <---- at this point the whole qt git tree became GPL hence protected by GPL and by the agreement as Qt-free or gpl version

                            since digia took control and qt5 came, they took the complete git repos of qt4 era and simplified them even more through QPA[project lighthouse], making only 1 tree will all the common code and the OS specific parts goes into small plugins, additionally the tree was moved to qt-project.org and given open governance, ofc still 99% of the code of all platform still in GPL and is still reffered as qt-free hence protected by license and agreement equally[except the normal always closed platforms like vxworks].

                            and again digia/kde/superman/your mom cannot remove the GPL license of files already in the repo, the agreement applies only to future code that is not in the repo already[7 times already too] or old code that never was GPL to begin with[again only certain OS versions of Qt1,2,3,Qtopia,Qtjambi,etc]

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                            • #15
                              Actually there is some stuff only available in the commercial edition.

                              http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2013/0...erprise-users/
                              http://qt-project.org/videos/watch/q...-and-functions

                              But the Free Qt is already more than a sufficient toolkit (and way easier to use than GTK imho).

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