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  • #16
    Originally posted by Kivada View Post
    Skype chat works on Pidgin via plugin supplied in most distros and available on Pidgin's site.

    Trillian has nothing to offer Linux users much like Nero didn't.
    Not exactly. As pointed out in a previous comment they are making this so Linux users can use trillian's decentralized protocol

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    • #17
      They can take their proprietary software and shove it!
      We already have several free software choices for IM, such as Empathy and many others.

      With NSA wiretapping communication, you should not trust your communication to be done over proprietary software.

      This is a agency that is known to do kidnap people (they call it "extraordinary rendition") and send them to secret prison camps in Egypt for torture.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by philip550c View Post
        Not exactly. As pointed out in a previous comment they are making this so Linux users can use trillian's decentralized protocol
        Is the protocol closed source? The client? If the answer is yes to either it has no value, just encrypt you chats and use TOR.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by philip550c View Post
          Not exactly. As pointed out in a previous comment they are making this so Linux users can use trillian's decentralized protocol
          What is this protocol good for?
          We already have Jabber / XMPP.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ObscureAngelPT View Post
            Its the only way i have to use skype, gtalk and facebook chat in a very lightweight and costumizable software for free..
            Pidgin, and most other libpurple-based software have been able to do that for ages.
            GoogleTalk and Facebook use XMPP for chat, Google not only helped popularising XMPP but are even behind the Jingle voice&video extensions.
            (Saddly for Facebook XMPP is only a gateway into their internal system. They *DO* transmist all messages to XMPP, in a standard fashion. But they DO NOT transmit voice to XMPP/Jingle. Instead they rely on some sort of skype plugin).
            Skype is simply achieved over SkypeAPI

            TL;DR skype, gtalk and facebook all work on Pidgin and co. (minus voice for facebook).

            Originally posted by Larian View Post
            Hmm. That's funny. I don't know how lightweight it is, but I have both Empathy and Pidgin doing gtalk and facebook chat. Never tried Skype. Is Skype a deal breaker for you?
            Although Pidgin doesn't support *native* skype (yet, there are reverse engineering projects underway, as reported on phoronix), Eion Robb has made a plugin using SkypeAPI. This plugin is even included on most distro (and is trivial to add your self).
            I've been using it for as long as I've been using Skype itself. It just works.

            Originally posted by karashata View Post
            I have reason to suspect that Skype support won't last very long though. From an email I received from the Skype developers when I emailed them about Skype API issues (messages from Skype often not being sent to IM clients accessing Skype via the API),
            Yes, the dropped message are a known bug in SkypeAPI. Now Eion Robb knows about them, and the purple plugin actually circumvents the bug.
            (Disclaimer: I've done small patch fixes to said bug circumvention to get it to work with latest Skype from Microsoft)

            So unlike Trillian where you might get dropped messages, SkypeAPI on Pidgin (and other purple-based chats) *Just Works*. Even using the latest Skype from Microsoft.

            Originally posted by uid313 View Post
            They can take their proprietary software and shove it!
            We already have several free software choices for IM, such as Empathy and many others.

            With NSA wiretapping communication, you should not trust your communication to be done over proprietary software.
            Indeed, the only trusty communication is over an encrypted channel where both end-points are trusty and trusting each other.
            That's not possible if one end-point is a closed-source software (you can throw the best mathematically-proven-to-be-unbreakable encryption at it, it won't matter if the end-point has a backdoor).

            Pidgin (and most other purple-based chat software) and Empathy are opensourced.
            Not only, but you can use the OTR (Off The Record) Standard to encrypt message through Pidgin over any chat system thanks to a plugin from Cypher Punks (available on most distro. Other purple based chats like Adium even have it built-in).

            (And if you keep Skype isolated inside a LXC container, you could be more secure against it, too).

            Hum, wonder if Jitsi could add a SkypeAPI plug-in complete with LXC isolation and OTR chat encryption ?

            Originally posted by philip550c View Post
            Not exactly. As pointed out in a previous comment they are making this so Linux users can use trillian's decentralized protocol
            Hum... I don't know about this one. Could you point to some resource detailing it?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by randomizer View Post
              I used Trillian a long time ago. Then I tried Pidgin and never went back to Trillian. The I stopped using desktop IM software other than Skype for about 2 years until a few days ago when I installed Pidgin again.
              Sounds exactly like my story. When I first got into linux I used Trillian for a couple months in wine, and when I got a little more comfortable with linux I figured I'd try something native to it. Pidgin had less to offer but it was good enough.


              I feel like Cerulean Studios is doing this as a last ditch effort to make money from Trillian. The program is really running out of compelling features and text-based chats outside of Facebook and customer support chat services.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by doom_Oo7 View Post
                LOL who in hell would buy such a software, especially on Linux ? I'm curious XD
                I'm sure there is some GTK die-hard out there who loves it so much that for a change something new is written in GTK that he'll buy Trillian right away.

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                • #23
                  yahoo

                  Yahoo is highly popular in Asia and its the only way I can communicate with family. There is no Yahoo (With Webcam!!!) support on Linux. Guyachi (or whatever) is dead and Kopete is almost useless. So where oh where can I do Video Chat through Yahoo with my family?. If Trillian can do that, I'm sold. I don't care if it's proprietary. No, I'm not going to use Skype and neither is my family.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                    I'm sure there is some GTK die-hard out there who loves it so much that for a change something new is written in GTK that he'll buy Trillian right away.
                    Oh you mean FunkSTAR?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Kivada View Post
                      Is the protocol closed source? The client? If the answer is yes to either it has no value, just encrypt you chats and use TOR.
                      pshh probably, im not recommending it.

                      Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                      What is this protocol good for?
                      We already have Jabber / XMPP.
                      I dont know, I wont use it. I run my own xmpp based chat for work and my friends. I agree with you. Just pointing out that they do have a reason.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by DrYak View Post
                        Hum... I don't know about this one. Could you point to some resource detailing it?
                        Yeah, i dont know much about this either, just going off of one of the earlier comments, Im not endorsing or suggesting using this at all. I do however recommend pidgin and running your own xmpp/jabber server.
                        Here's the comment from the first page.

                        Originally posted by ObscureAngelPT View Post
                        I guess this is why they are trying to descentralize the things.
                        Not sure if it is going to be good ideia..

                        http://blog.trillian.im/?p=2746

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                          They can take their proprietary software and shove it!
                          We already have several free software choices for IM, such as Empathy and many others.

                          With NSA wiretapping communication, you should not trust your communication to be done over proprietary software.

                          This is a agency that is known to do kidnap people (they call it "extraordinary rendition") and send them to secret prison camps in Egypt for torture.
                          The idea of the NSA kidnapping and torturing people is absurd. Just because one conspiracy theory proved to be true does not give you license to make shit up by randomly feeding trendy buzzwords into a phrasal template.

                          Cite your sources.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Serge View Post
                            The idea of the NSA kidnapping and torturing people is absurd. Just because one conspiracy theory proved to be true does not give you license to make shit up by randomly feeding trendy buzzwords into a phrasal template.

                            Cite your sources.
                            I am sorry, I got it mixed up, this wasn't the NSA who did the kidnapping and torturing, it was the CIA.

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repatr...hammad_al-Zery
                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                              I am sorry, I got it mixed up, this wasn't the NSA who did the kidnapping and torturing, it was the CIA.

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repatr...hammad_al-Zery
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition
                              And I, in turn, am sorry for being rude. I know the CIA is infamous for this kind of shit, but seeing the NSA get accused of something like this just felt like FUD.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Serge View Post
                                And I, in turn, am sorry for being rude. I know the CIA is infamous for this kind of shit, but seeing the NSA get accused of something like this just felt like FUD.
                                Feds are still feds. The NSA trumps up terrorism charges, the FBI nabs you, the TSA throws you on a plane, the CIA "renditions" you in some shithole country for the rest of your short and extremely painful existence.

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