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  • Mozilla Pushes "Shumway" Flash Into Firefox

    Phoronix: Mozilla Pushes "Shumway" Flash Into Firefox

    Mozilla has pushed their open-source "Shumway" open-source Flash/SWF player into the latest Firefox nightly builds...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQ3NjY

  • #2
    Porno-compatible?

    Does with with JW Player and Flowplayer?

    Does it work on YouTube, PornTube, RedTube, xhamster, Beeg?

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    • #3
      Wow, judging from the first sentence, I guess Shumway might be open-source.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by uid313 View Post
        Porno-compatible?
        ..says the man that types faster with one hand than most people do with two.

        uses HTML5 technologies for efficiently rendering the SWF file format without native code support.
        If it can allow decent-sized Flash on crappy old laptops without overloading and/or overheating them, I'll be impressed.

        BTW, does anyone know if Lightspark has decent support for youtube yet (their site says "partially" supported).

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        • #5
          Originally posted by uid313 View Post
          Does with with JW Player and Flowplayer?

          Does it work on YouTube, PornTube, RedTube, xhamster, Beeg?
          LOOOOL

          Considering youtube already has html5 support this is really the last blocker
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          • #6
            If it can do webcomics, I'll be happy

            The main thing I still need flash for is http://mspaintadventures.com/
            That, and if I ever feel like a nostalgia trip, and want to watch old flash animations. They were good fun.

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            • #7
              Speed and performance

              I hope the "Shumway" is much faster than Adobe's plugin. Sure, Adobe's linux plugin works, but if you take the occasion to play a flash game or stream HD content online, the Adobe plugin really shows its weaknesses.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by darkbasic View Post
                LOOOOL

                Considering youtube already has html5 support this is really the last blocker
                Yes, porn is the only thing that is keeping Flash alive.

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                • #9
                  Testing it now, at work so the porno test will have to wait. So far it perceptibly uses more resources than Flash, and doesn't work with Daily Motion. Youtube seemed to just use Flash straight away, so I think they've added a blacklist of sites maybe? I play The Settlers Online which works exactly the same in Linux as Windows afaik is up to 2.5GB RAM and constant 100% CPU, nothing materialises.

                  On someone's bright side, all Flash ads worked!
                  Last edited by beaverusiv; 10-03-2013, 08:10 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Well when they came out with their Javascript PDF reader it mostly worked, but not as well as standalone readers already available, and there was no reason whatsoever to use it. And Mozilla themselves would post messages saying, "this document may not have rendered correctly (even when it did), you should probably use a different PDF reader!" No kidding guys, so why have you changed my settings to use this one? I expect Shumway to be similar. At least there is a decent reason to create it, given the problems with Flash and Adobe's dropping support.

                    By the way, is the Firefox PDF reader good yet? Is there any reason at all to use it?

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                    • #11
                      @Chaz firefox's PDF is capable of every PDF I've thrown at it, but I just view basic ones, nothing with forms or anything.

                      I am very excited for shumway to see if it becomes a valid way to view Flash content on a tablet. Playing my game on a tablet would be awesome.

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                      • #12
                        I was going to say - Mozilla's PDF reader is now pretty damn amazing now. If Shumway can reach that level, that would be great.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Chaz View Post
                          Well when they came out with their Javascript PDF reader it mostly worked, but not as well as standalone readers already available, and there was no reason whatsoever to use it. And Mozilla themselves would post messages saying, "this document may not have rendered correctly (even when it did), you should probably use a different PDF reader!" No kidding guys, so why have you changed my settings to use this one? I expect Shumway to be similar. At least there is a decent reason to create it, given the problems with Flash and Adobe's dropping support.

                          By the way, is the Firefox PDF reader good yet? Is there any reason at all to use it?
                          Actually, there was a reason to use it: Since it is written in Javascript, it runs only in the Javascript sandbox. It's not a huge deal, but that helps to limit the possible exploit vectors of a PDF.
                          As for its stability and rendering capabilities, it is quite capable of handling most PDF's I have thrown at it. The only recent rendering glitch I have seen recently is a few images sometimes don't always appear.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jwilliams View Post
                            Wow, judging from the first sentence, I guess Shumway might be open-source.
                            It is open source.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by benmoran View Post
                              I was going to say - Mozilla's PDF reader is now pretty damn amazing now. If Shumway can reach that level, that would be great.
                              not sure about you butt in my case, be it a drivers issue or not, it renders slower than Atril, just as slow as when you scroll up or down on any page. It may not be the pdf viewer's fault, it may be firefox's fault, but slower is slower, Atrill scrolls smoothly where firefox's lags a lot and with 100% cpu usage.
                              Just for the record, HD6950 with fglrx 13.10, ubuntu 12.04+mate. If any nvidia user could test this on his side...

                              Aside from that, yeah, it is kind of usefull, at least i dont have the taskbar full of atrill windows while searching for datasheets for a chip or something.
                              If they can fix that performance issue and overall it works better and faster or at least equal than adobe's then i'm in. Although java script plus flash sounds like a good place to live for security bugs.

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