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  • #11
    @Chaz firefox's PDF is capable of every PDF I've thrown at it, but I just view basic ones, nothing with forms or anything.

    I am very excited for shumway to see if it becomes a valid way to view Flash content on a tablet. Playing my game on a tablet would be awesome.

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    • #12
      I was going to say - Mozilla's PDF reader is now pretty damn amazing now. If Shumway can reach that level, that would be great.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Chaz View Post
        Well when they came out with their Javascript PDF reader it mostly worked, but not as well as standalone readers already available, and there was no reason whatsoever to use it. And Mozilla themselves would post messages saying, "this document may not have rendered correctly (even when it did), you should probably use a different PDF reader!" No kidding guys, so why have you changed my settings to use this one? I expect Shumway to be similar. At least there is a decent reason to create it, given the problems with Flash and Adobe's dropping support.

        By the way, is the Firefox PDF reader good yet? Is there any reason at all to use it?
        Actually, there was a reason to use it: Since it is written in Javascript, it runs only in the Javascript sandbox. It's not a huge deal, but that helps to limit the possible exploit vectors of a PDF.
        As for its stability and rendering capabilities, it is quite capable of handling most PDF's I have thrown at it. The only recent rendering glitch I have seen recently is a few images sometimes don't always appear.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by jwilliams View Post
          Wow, judging from the first sentence, I guess Shumway might be open-source.
          It is open source.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by benmoran View Post
            I was going to say - Mozilla's PDF reader is now pretty damn amazing now. If Shumway can reach that level, that would be great.
            not sure about you butt in my case, be it a drivers issue or not, it renders slower than Atril, just as slow as when you scroll up or down on any page. It may not be the pdf viewer's fault, it may be firefox's fault, but slower is slower, Atrill scrolls smoothly where firefox's lags a lot and with 100% cpu usage.
            Just for the record, HD6950 with fglrx 13.10, ubuntu 12.04+mate. If any nvidia user could test this on his side...

            Aside from that, yeah, it is kind of usefull, at least i dont have the taskbar full of atrill windows while searching for datasheets for a chip or something.
            If they can fix that performance issue and overall it works better and faster or at least equal than adobe's then i'm in. Although java script plus flash sounds like a good place to live for security bugs.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by mrugiero View Post
              It is open source.
              I don't know. It really needs to be said at least three times to be sure.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by jwilliams View Post
                I don't know. It really needs to be said at least three times to be sure.
                There's a github page with the code, and I'm subscribed to the development mailing list (even though I don't develop, I thought it would be interesting) since a week ago.

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                • #18
                  I'm trying the plugin on github on an Android tablet but it looks like the porn tubes already have HTML5 video fallback. I tried some sports streaming sites which tend to have shitty flash players and none of them work.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by mrugiero View Post
                    There's a github page with the code, and I'm subscribed to the development mailing list (even though I don't develop, I thought it would be interesting) since a week ago.
                    I'm still not convinced. The first sentence of the phoronix article really has to repeat "open-source" at least three times to be completely persuasive.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Etzos View Post
                      Actually, there was a reason to use it: Since it is written in Javascript, it runs only in the Javascript sandbox. It's not a huge deal, but that helps to limit the possible exploit vectors of a PDF.
                      In my book, that's a very good reason NOT to use it.
                      Tried with Iceweasel 17...
                      I seem to remember that 1, it didn't work with NoScript on, and 2, it was so slow loading that I was trying to leave the page, having concluded it wouldn't load, before it started to show any content.
                      So I promptry set the PDF reader back to Xpdf (somehow it had ignored the old settings...)

                      AMD Neo dual-core @ 1.6 GHz, 3 GB RAM, SSD, and Radeon HD3200M; Squeeze "i386" with kernel updated to 3.8.x.

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