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  • Video: The State of KDE Frameworks 5, Plasma 2

    Phoronix: Video: The State of KDE Frameworks 5, Plasma 2

    For those curious about the state of KDE Frameworks 5 and the Plasma 2 desktop interface, KDE developer Sebastian Kügler has posted a video of the current state of this new KDE code that's expected to stabilize in 2014...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQ1OTc

  • #2
    KDE4 took a few years and like 6 point releases to get rid of all important bugs, if that's any indication KDE Fr5 should be actually ready by like 2016.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by mark45 View Post
      KDE4 took a few years and like 6 point releases to get rid of all important bugs, if that's any indication KDE Fr5 should be actually ready by like 2016.
      KDE 4 was revolutionary, not evolutionary. They DRASTICALLY changed...Just about everything. KDE 5 is meant to be relatively boring and more of an evolutionary update from the sounds of it.

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      • #4
        Another video

        Another video of current KF5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLSXtCkp2P8

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        • #5
          I really like KDE but has anyone seen any good plasmoids around? Even the stock ones seem unfinished. The promise was so much more. Sure, the tech will get updated but plasma will remain not very useful. Keeping my thumbs up anyway, maybe QML2 will allow for easier creation of cool plasma apps/gadgets?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ericg View Post
            KDE 4 was revolutionary, not evolutionary. They DRASTICALLY changed...Just about everything. KDE 5 is meant to be relatively boring and more of an evolutionary update from the sounds of it.
            There will be no KDE 5, only Plasma 2.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by RushPL View Post
              I really like KDE but has anyone seen any good plasmoids around?
              Homerun, Smooth Tasks2, Battery, Plasma-NM, CWP, Digital Clock, Folder View, Systray, Sticky Notes, and Quick Launch.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                There will be no KDE 5, only Plasma 2.
                There will be KDE Frameworks 5, KDE Applications 5 and KDE Workspaces 2. The KFs are mostly about modularization of kdelibs (cleanups, merges with Qt 5, deprecations etc). KDE Applications will likely be just a port of KDE Applications 4.xx to KF5. The changes in Plasma Workspaces are quite notable with stuff like complete QML2 port and removal of the old graphics system.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Teho View Post
                  There will be KDE Frameworks 5, KDE Applications 5 and KDE Workspaces 2.
                  No, there will be no “KDE Workspaces 2”, only Plasma 2.
                  Whether the applications will get a 5.x number, hasn't even been decided, yet.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                    No, there will be no “KDE Workspaces 2”, only Plasma 2.
                    The KDE Release Structure Evolves article clearly mentions KDE Workspaces 2.


                    Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                    Whether the applications will get a 5.x number, hasn't even been decided, yet.
                    What else could it be? It would make no sense not to move to 5.x because people probably want to be able to install KDE SC 4 and KDE Applications "5" side by side; having 4.13 for Qt 4 and 4.14 for Qt 5 would be pretty damn confusing. I know there's no concrete plans on when it will be released but I haven't heard any one suggest that there's any question what the version number will be.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                      Homerun, Smooth Tasks2, Battery, Plasma-NM, CWP, Digital Clock, Folder View, Systray, Sticky Notes, and Quick Launch.
                      I would count Sticky Notes and CWP from your list. Rest is the stuff you expect from your system anyway.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RushPL View Post
                        I would count Sticky Notes and CWP from your list. Rest is the stuff you expect from your system anyway.
                        These are all Plasma applets…

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Teho View Post
                          The KDE Release Structure Evolves article clearly mentions KDE Workspaces 2.
                          No, it uses your term as description what Plasma 2 is and says:
                          Plasma Workspaces 2 will be a new version of KDE Workspaces”

                          Since then “Workspaces” has apparently been cut for brevity reasons, at least that’s how the blog post, this story is about, calls it.

                          Originally posted by Teho View Post
                          What else could it be?
                          Simply a date-based version number like Mandriva or Ubuntu.
                          Individual applications have different version numbers anyway and the migration to KF5 will be gradual. So why not dates?

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                          • #14
                            Stop nitpicking about nomenclature; nobody cares.
                            When someone says KDE5 you know what they mean. It's not our fault KDE has a confusing naming system.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                              So why not dates?
                              Because nothing else in KDE is using such scheme; consistency matters.

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