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  • #16
    Originally posted by Cybolic View Post
    I think the 400+ million GMail users would disagree. Cloud also doesn't have to be insecure, nor is it usually less secure than using your credit card online.
    I'll grant you this. Communications / social / collaborative functionality is better provided by cloud services.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cybolic View Post
      I think the 400+ million GMail users would disagree. Cloud also doesn't have to be insecure, nor is it usually less secure than using your credit card online.
      Gmail is great for anyone who wants his private life to be datamined and profiled for advertising. Same applies for using Chrome etc

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Mike Frett View Post
        You and me both. Which reminds me, if you happen to use Windows, rumor is Windows 10 will be completely Cloud based -- I guess that will not sit well with you either. I personally don't use Windows anymore, since 2012. I made the switch and never looked back. Unlike most, I didn't need to rationalize my use of Windows. App and Game replacements were everywhere and Steam had just arrived.

        I can't stand the cloud. The bad just outweighs the good and I like things to be in MY control.
        I use (and very much enjoy) Windows 8 but they are going to have to pry local user accounts out of my cold dead hands.

        Not that I can't see why Microsoft will recommend logging in to Windows using a Microsoft account; imagine logging in and having all your preferences and system configurations automatically transferred over from the home desktop PC to a notebook / Surface tablet without having to do a thing, and vice versa. It's a great idea that I can appreciate, except that I'm not ready to dump all my personal information in Microsoft's servers yet (or any organization's servers whoever they may be).


        Originally posted by Serge
        The cloud hype comes from software vendors, not users. There are a number of advantages to web-based applications from the point of view of a vendor. You are trying to understand why user preference would be driving this, but fact is that user preference has nothing to do with it.
        Many people i know in my country are hopping onto webapps, both users and developers alike. User preference has got to play a part somehow.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mike Frett View Post
          You and me both. Which reminds me, if you happen to use Windows, rumor is Windows 10 will be completely Cloud based -- I guess that will not sit well with you either. I personally don't use Windows anymore, since 2012. I made the switch and never looked back. Unlike most, I didn't need to rationalize my use of Windows. App and Game replacements were everywhere and Steam had just arrived.

          I can't stand the cloud. The bad just outweighs the good and I like things to be in MY control.
          Even if Ballmer did intend to turn Windows 10 into a cloud OS keep in mind that that idiot is finally being kicked out and that means that someone else is going to be coming in who probably isn't going to agree with that idea, but until we know who the successor is going to be we can't make a for sure guess on that.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by uid313 View Post
            You mean Firefox Marketplace?
            https://marketplace.firefox.com/

            Well, there is no link to it anywhere from Firefox, and nobody have ever heard of it.
            I thought it was just for Firefox phones, until I looked it up today.
            Yeah, I guess Mozilla is just not as good as Google when it comes to marketing

            Anyway I don't see what's the difference between an application written in JS/HTML and an application written in any other language. It's just a language, a framework, there's no direct link between cloud apps and web apps. Any application, not only web-based ones, could use cloud services and could harm our privacy.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
              +1 can we please finally get rid of VCL, XUL, and co?
              Than Qt would be the only option if you don't want to maintain one gui per plattform.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Thaodan View Post
                Than Qt would be the only option if you don't want to maintain one gui per plattform.
                Yup, I know. But can you really argue that VCL,XUL, and co are better than Qt?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
                  Yup, I know. But can you really argue that VCL,XUL, and co are better than Qt?
                  well:

                  VCL: basically exist because was the original toolkit used to create staroffice, not really the kinda of API you enjoy to use
                  Xul: is not that bad but is firefox only and contains a lot of cruft for compatibility[last time i checked] and compared to qt5 not sure how efficient can be in graphic accel, no exactly pretty but have lots of history

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by jrch2k8 View Post
                    well:

                    VCL: basically exist because was the original toolkit used to create staroffice, not really the kinda of API you enjoy to use
                    Xul: is not that bad but is firefox only and contains a lot of cruft for compatibility[last time i checked] and compared to qt5 not sure how efficient can be in graphic accel, no exactly pretty but have lots of history
                    so... in short: Hell no, and kinda sorta not really. I rest my case.

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