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  • #31
    In fact I've seen similar "nicety GUIs over regedit" for Windows too, some even from Microsoft themselves.

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    • #32
      Heh, this is silly...

      Also, I still think that gnome 3.10 should be just re-named to 3.0 and we could make pact with the devs that we will forget all the shit they did in exchange for normal linux-like development

      Also, MATE is dying legacy, but XFCEs development is soooooo slooooow and it have half the features... Cinnamon seems the normal way to go, but do they have enough manpower to fork WHOLE gnome?

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      • #33
        Can't say I like the default paste action of the middle mouse button. In Firefox, accidentally pressing it means it goes to the last URL I had highlighted, or throws an error if the last highlighted thing wasn't a URL...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by curaga View Post
          If you take a look at what gnome-tweak-tool does, it changes Gnome's registry. This makes it in function similar to regedit.

          I know it's not dconf-editor but looks more like a settings panel. That doesn't change the fact its choices change Gnome registry.
          If the definition of a registry editor is that it changes values in the registry, then all applications that change a setting is a registry editor. I don't think that is a very useful classification.

          gnome-tweak-tool is not different from any other settings application, except that it is perhaps somewhat more "rough" in the way it presents the knobs.

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          • #35
            Innovation. (Why so much flaming?)

            I like having two clipboard buffers, though otherwise I'm not too fussed about this. Having a "paste mouse buffer" item in the context menu might not be so bad.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
              Can't say I like the default paste action of the middle mouse button. In Firefox, accidentally pressing it means it goes to the last URL I had highlighted, or throws an error if the last highlighted thing wasn't a URL...
              Also, if you have a slightly too sensitive scroll wheel you can accidently paste stuff into your text document while you scroll in it. This happens to me a lot and it creates more hassle than the benefit of being able to copy/paste with my mouse.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Redi44 View Post
                Heh, this is silly...

                Also, I still think that gnome 3.10 should be just re-named to 3.0 and we could make pact with the devs that we will forget all the shit they did in exchange for normal linux-like development

                Also, MATE is dying legacy, but XFCEs development is soooooo slooooow and it have half the features... Cinnamon seems the normal way to go, but do they have enough manpower to fork WHOLE gnome?
                MATE is not "dying legacy", they're in the process of porting their entire codebase to GTK+3. Just because GNOME ended the development of GNOME 2, doesn't mean that the fork of GNOME 2 would be "dying". Things can exist without the attention of their original devs, that's how open source works...

                Cinnamon is in the process of diverging from GNOME entirely: version 2.0 of Cinnamon will no longer use any GNOME libs, instead they will develop their entirely own backend (which will still use GTK+3 and Clutter, AFAIK).

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
                  Can't say I like the default paste action of the middle mouse button. In Firefox, accidentally pressing it means it goes to the last URL I had highlighted, or throws an error if the last highlighted thing wasn't a URL...
                  You've always been able to disable that in Opera, misclicks when trying to paste in a text field annoyed me too (it's the default behavior).

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by kigurai View Post
                    If the definition of a registry editor is that it changes values in the registry, then all applications that change a setting is a registry editor. I don't think that is a very useful classification.

                    gnome-tweak-tool is not different from any other settings application, except that it is perhaps somewhat more "rough" in the way it presents the knobs.
                    Ah, but the difference is that only very rarely do applications use a registry instead of a sensible configuration format. Only apps with a registry need registry editors

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by curaga View Post
                      Ah, but the difference is that only very rarely do applications use a registry instead of a sensible configuration format. Only apps with a registry need registry editors
                      Since this is wildly off topic, maybe you can take that discussion elsewhere?

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                      • #41
                        OT is par for the course for Phoronix Anyway, I already stated my on-topic response too.

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                        • #42
                          I would be sad to not have middle click paste. In the time it takes to reconfigure GNOME3 into a state I like, it is easier to just switch to MATE. There has always been room for multiple desktop projects in linux.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Honton View Post
                            First. Despite the obvious downsides of middle click paste, it is still default. Second, you can change the middle click behavior with two clicks in gnome-tweak-tool. You wasted around 140 clicks writing your message. That is more than a life time changing niddle click behavior.
                            It looks like the plan is that middle click paste will not be default in the future.
                            https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-s...643330c7d10c25

                            I forgot to include the time of searching through the gnome control panels to find the option. searching the web to find if its a bug or an intention change. finding out that gnome tweak tool can fix it. and installing gnome tweak tool.

                            Then again for a bunch of other GNOME3 'features'. when the multiple desktops with multiple screens behaviour changed, it could be turned off in gnome tweak tool, but you ended up with a very buggy multiple desktops ( https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=652580 ). Then there is the alt-tab stuff. Getting a system monitor in the top panel. using programs that are have systray applets (tomboy, gmpc, liferea). Things that used to work but don't now https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=663690 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692969 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=981958 ...

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                            • #44
                              Gnome 3: Killing established workstation usability one feature at a time

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                                From what I've seen, the tweak tool is also somewhat limiting, and my point is many of the options that are in it are things that gnome should've had to begin with. Note that while I don't see anything functionally wrong with the tweak tool, from a system-wide point of view, it's disorganized. So you might have a dedicated program to change volume or screen resolution settings, but you need to break open tweak tool for other system related things, such as changing the font. This is just simply a very inelegant way of cramming in additional miscellaneous features that shouldn't be missing in the first place. They could've done it like XFCE, where you can download separate configuration tools but they can all be optionally attached to the same settings manager. Then, there could have been an "advanced mode" where you could reveal some of the more risky or complicated features. That way everybody wins and you don't have to rely on misfit tools.


                                I'd have to agree that KDE sometimes gets a little too carried away with some settings. I also feel KDE's System Settings program is disorganized, but at least everything is all in 1 place. There are a few things in KDE that I just leave at the defaults because they're too tedious to edit myself. I personally feel XFCE is the only distro that really got everything settings related done right, though I feel KDE has the best features.
                                Yeah I do agree that XFCE has a nice settings manager and a good balance of simplicity and settings. I just don't like how old and crufty XFCE is under the hood

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