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  • KDE Ships 4.11 Release Candidate

    Phoronix: KDE Ships 4.11 Release Candidate

    The first release candidate of the KDE 4.11 desktop is now available for widespread testing...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQxMjY

  • #2
    there's faster Nepomuk indexing
    there should be no nepomuk

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    • #3
      With the frozen kdelibs (since 4.9) I jumped onto 4.11 as early as beta 1. I was surprised by the high stability.
      4.11 is a joy to use.

      Originally posted by Yorgos View Post
      there should be no nepomuk
      Then don't install it. It has always been optional.

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      • #4
        It's not so much nepomuk

        Originally posted by Yorgos View Post
        there should be no nepomuk
        It's not so much nepomuk as it is the abomination that is akonadi. Poorly conceived, poorly implemented, way overly complicated. Years and versions later and it's still a mess. That and recurring appointments in korganizer are the two biggest continuing buckets 'o fail in KDE.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kurosan View Post
          It's not so much nepomuk as it is the abomination that is akonadi. Poorly conceived, poorly implemented, way overly complicated. Years and versions later and it's still a mess. That and recurring appointments in korganizer are the two biggest continuing buckets 'o fail in KDE.
          +1! I tend to recompile every KDE release (actually only few of the components) just for the sake of removing akonadi from my box.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kurosan View Post
            It's not so much nepomuk as it is the abomination that is akonadi. Poorly conceived, poorly implemented, way overly complicated. Years and versions later and it's still a mess. That and recurring appointments in korganizer are the two biggest continuing buckets 'o fail in KDE.
            KDE-PIM was a mess before Akonadi, now everything uses the same backend. The only thing I think is that the contact stuff should go to telepathy-kde.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by pejakm View Post
              +1! I tend to recompile every KDE release (actually only few of the components) just for the sake of removing akonadi from my box.
              At least with openSUSE it's perfectly possible to remove the Akonadi packages. If your distro does not not allow that, your distro is broken.

              Everything is optional. Simply don't use non-working components. E.g. I don't use a KDE web browser.

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              • #8
                Im really not sure what you guys are complaining about... With the work that went into indexing with 4.9 and 4.10 i dont even notice indexing happening at all. Granted the only KDE-PIM thing I use IS nepomuk and telepathy-- no kmail or the organizer so maybe those are bad. But its perfectly fine if you just use Nepomuk for indexing and krunner integration.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                  Everything is optional.
                  Is the cashew finally optional? It is my biggest issue with KDE.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ericg View Post
                    Im really not sure what you guys are complaining about... With the work that went into indexing with 4.9 and 4.10 i dont even notice indexing happening at all. Granted the only KDE-PIM thing I use IS nepomuk and telepathy-- no kmail or the organizer so maybe those are bad. But its perfectly fine if you just use Nepomuk for indexing and krunner integration.
                    Indeed, lately Nepomuk has become a non-issue.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Maxjen View Post
                      Is the cashew finally optional? It is my biggest issue with KDE.
                      No but you can remove it by installing Py-Cashew or I Hate The Cashew.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Maxjen View Post
                        Is the cashew finally optional? It is my biggest issue with KDE.
                        ... If the little Cashew or "Desktop" tag in an arbitrary corner / screen-edge is your biggest issue with KDE.. I consider that an endorsement, not a criticism.

                        Regardless, "I Hate The Cashew" and "PyCashew" will both hide it if its that big of a deal

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Teho View Post
                          No but you can remove it by installing Py-Cashew or I Hate The Cashew.
                          Thanks, but I knew that already. It is also possible to hide it under the taskbar. But when will there be a default option to disable it?

                          Originally posted by Ericg View Post
                          I consider that an endorsement, not a criticism.
                          Yes, I actually do like KDE, but this one thing really bothers me. Why is there an ugly toolbox which serves no purpose that I can't disable without installing 3rd party software.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Maxjen View Post
                            Thanks, but I knew that already. It is also possible to hide it under the taskbar. But when will there be a default option to disable it?


                            Yes, I actually do like KDE, but this one thing really bothers me. Why is there an ugly toolbox which serves no purpose that I can't disable without installing 3rd party software.
                            Easy access to activities settings? Easy access to desktop settings? A lot of those settings ARE also available under right click but with the push to mobile its stupid to assume that there will always be a "right click" available and its smart to keep a dedicated button there for those cases.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ericg View Post
                              Easy access to activities settings? Easy access to desktop settings? A lot of those settings ARE also available under right click but with the push to mobile its stupid to assume that there will always be a "right click" available and its smart to keep a dedicated button there for those cases.
                              Yes, but there could easily be an option to disable it on the desktop. A lot of people never use it. On my desktop form follows function and if something isn't absolutely necessary I want to be able to remove it. For example I also hide the menu bar and the side panels in dolphin. I expect this especially from KDE because it is supposed to be customizable.

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