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  • #16
    Originally posted by mark45 View Post
    Don't hold your breath, from what I read a while ago and even today on the forum - vdpau support in vlc is gonna require a lot more CPU for some (most?) people for unknown (to me) reasons, which screws the whole point of using vdpau.
    That's why I stay with Gnome Mplayer, its vdpau support is better than in SMplayer and consumes almost no CPU when video is paused, unlike SMplayer.
    unfortunately, Gnome Mplayer always crashes for me

    Code:
    MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: vo_check_events
    SMplayer works neat, though it consumes additional 2 - 4% of CPU... and I agree largely about VLC's CPU consumption

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    • #17
      Finally VDPAU!
      I was so shocked when I discovered that VLC did not support it after I got VDPAU on UVD to run...
      Of course all other improvements are also welcome.

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      • #18
        As smitty explained, it's the architecture. This is exactly why you use mplayer and not VLC (or god forbid, gstreamer).

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Chewi View Post
          You're saying Blu-ray is already perfect or you've tried a pre-release and didn't notice much difference? I hope it's better than mplayer at least. Although the framerate holds up with low CPU usage, I get some tearing, which I thought VDPAU was supposed to eliminate. The audio sync isn't terrible but it could be better. Finding the right episode can be a challenge and it often starts playing with the wrong language. Not much fun when you're trying to chill out in front of the TV.
          I'm saying that VLC cannot play Blu-ray and will never be able to, due to Blu-ray inherent DRM. Sure, you can sometimes crack it, but then what's the point of owning a Blu-ray video disc to begin with?

          Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
          VLC, on the other hand, has an entire pipeline that it sends the video down. That's where the "LAN" in VLC comes from
          I'm pretty sure the LAN comes from the same place where Client does. As in, Video LAN Client and Video LAN Server were originally created for streaming video over LAN on a campus. Now the name is completely deprecated and thus the VLC acronym has no actual meaning.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
            I'm saying that VLC cannot play Blu-ray and will never be able to, due to Blu-ray inherent DRM. Sure, you can sometimes crack it, but then what's the point of owning a Blu-ray video disc to begin with?
            I don't think it's that bad in practise. My optical drive packed up recently so I did some research to determine whether it was worth buying a Blu-ray drive now. I concluded that it was. Only BD+ titles, which are currently limited to Fox, pose a significant problem, and even those can be played with a little more effort. The rest just work, more or less. I don't buy many films as I don't tend to rewatch so I rent them by post instead. If there's one title I want that I know to be problematic, I'll just choose DVD instead, but that hasn't happened yet.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Chewi View Post
              I don't think it's that bad in practise. My optical drive packed up recently so I did some research to determine whether it was worth buying a Blu-ray drive now. I concluded that it was. Only BD+ titles, which are currently limited to Fox, pose a significant problem, and even those can be played with a little more effort. The rest just work, more or less. I don't buy many films as I don't tend to rewatch so I rent them by post instead. If there's one title I want that I know to be problematic, I'll just choose DVD instead, but that hasn't happened yet.
              It doesn't change the fact that you have to crack its DRM to be able to see it. And doing that is also extremely situational, where new Blu-rays can and do make old Blu-rays not work any more. With DVDs it's the same thing, just that it's much easier to crack the DVD DRM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
                I'm pretty sure the LAN comes from the same place where Client does. As in, Video LAN Client and Video LAN Server were originally created for streaming video over LAN on a campus. Now the name is completely deprecated and thus the VLC acronym has no actual meaning.
                Sorry, i didn't explain very well. What i meant was, VLC could stream video over a LAN because of it's pipeline architecture (or the architecture was designed that way to allow for that usage). That's different than a standard video player that just dumps the decoded video straight into the gpu video buffer for display.

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                • #23
                  Ah, all right, that makes sense.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                    That is what we IT experts refer to as a bug. VDPAU decoding is (IIRC according to a videolan.org forum post) still declared experimental in 2.1.0 and will be off by default.
                    It already supports libva so just use libva-vdpau

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Thaodan View Post
                      It already supports libva so just use libva-vdpau
                      Has that thing ever worked for anybody? At least for me it didn't.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                        Has that thing ever worked for anybody? At least for me it didn't.
                        Neither for me.
                        Probably it works only for amd/intel users, or for intel only.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                          Has that thing ever worked for anybody? At least for me it didn't.
                          As far as I know. Is there a way to test it and be sure that it works?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by mark45 View Post
                            Neither for me.
                            Probably it works only for amd/intel users, or for intel only.
                            nvidia gt 670 run perfectly, without it, 25% cpu, with it, 13%.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Thaodan View Post
                              As far as I know. Is there a way to test it and be sure that it works?
                              How about vainfo?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
                                How about vainfo?
                                Code:
                                $ vainfo
                                libva info: VA-API version 0.33.0
                                libva info: va_getDriverName() returns 0
                                libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib64/va/drivers/r600_drv_video.so
                                libva info: va_openDriver() returns -1
                                vaInitialize failed with error code -1 (unknown libva error),exit
                                
                                $ ls /usr/lib64/va/drivers
                                nvidia_drv_video.so  s3g_drv_video.so  vdpau_drv_video.so
                                Aha! So I was missing a symlink. After pointing r600_drv_video.so to vdpau_drv_video.so, I get...

                                Code:
                                $ vainfo
                                libva info: VA-API version 0.33.0
                                libva info: va_getDriverName() returns 0
                                libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib64/va/drivers/r600_drv_video.so
                                libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_0_33
                                libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0
                                vainfo: VA-API version: 0.33 (libva 1.1.1)
                                vainfo: Driver version: Splitted-Desktop Systems VDPAU backend for VA-API - 0.7.4
                                vainfo: Supported profile and entrypoints
                                      VAProfileMPEG2Simple            :	VAEntrypointVLD
                                      VAProfileMPEG2Main              :	VAEntrypointVLD
                                      VAProfileH264Baseline           :	VAEntrypointVLD
                                      VAProfileH264Main               :	VAEntrypointVLD
                                      VAProfileH264High               :	VAEntrypointVLD
                                      VAProfileVC1Simple              :	VAEntrypointVLD
                                      VAProfileVC1Main                :	VAEntrypointVLD
                                      VAProfileVC1Advanced            :	VAEntrypointVLD
                                Looks good. I don't have a Blu-ray to try it with just now.

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