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  • KDE Might Move To A Three Month Release Schedule

    Phoronix: KDE Might Move To A Three Month Release Schedule

    The KDE project is currently evaluating a proposal to move from a six month release cycle for major releases to future releases coming every three months...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQwNjY

  • #2
    I say good on them. Kernel is ABOUT 3months (technically isnt it usually 8 weeks? 7rc's and 1 week of merging?), firefox is about 3months if I'm remembering correctly, KDE will be on 3months now, MESA is on 3month cycles. Fast moving distros will love it, and slow moving distros dont have to change their plans since every 6 months will still be a new version-- now it will just be jumping from 5.0 to 5.2 then 5.4 every release, instead of 5.0 then 5.1 then 5.2 every release.

    Its better for developers since there's no rush to meet a merge window (if you miss it, oh well, 2 months of stabilization for you then you try again next release-- not 5 months of stabilization) and its better for users since if developers aren't rushed to meet a merge-window then the odds of half-finished code being shipped as stable is less likely.

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    • #3
      Short time release with only what is backed, seems to be a good development model for OSS softwares. Chrome started now all follows. I think this is good and should be spread more, do a quick release and only add features when they are done, not every release have to be ground backing.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
        It seems like they're becoming desperate not to be left behind.
        Desperate enough to not be left behind? BO$$ I know you're an Ubuntu Fanboy, but still... KDE is a great DE, especially in the last few releases its as stable than ever before.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ericg View Post
          Desperate enough to not be left behind? BO$$ I know you're an Ubuntu Fanboy, but still... KDE is a great DE, especially in the last few releases its as stable than ever before.
          Just ignore the troll.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
            It seems like they're becoming desperate not to be left behind.
            Aww And I thought that all the Qt/KDE haters are gone

            Personally, I don't have problem with this. I already use Chakra so bring it on!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ericg View Post
              KDE is a great DE, especially in the last few releases its as stable than ever before.
              Yes! Great! The only drawback is that they are removing features like the background mode of Konsole if we say nothing:
              http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320783

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
                It seems like they're becoming desperate not to be left behind.
                Yes. They're in the same boat as Mesa and the linux kernel. Dying projects.
                /sarcasm

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                • #9
                  The only reason I'm against this is because KDE is a bit on the heavy side, however, within the past 3 releases I had to have had at least 40MB of disk space saved due to strictly KDE updates. That's HUGE, and if they keep it up, KDE should shrink to a very clean manageable size. I'm glad KDE at this point is focusing more on maintenance than anything. The stability and usability is improving dramatically in every direction. Clean it up a little more so it boots faster and I think more people would be willing to switch. Most people who hate KDE today either haven't tried it in years, used it on a system that really shouldn't be running it (like a netbook), or dislike the appearance (when it's not that hard to change).

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                  • #10
                    Already like the monthly bugfixes that they release.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                      The only reason I'm against this is because KDE is a bit on the heavy side, however, within the past 3 releases I had to have had at least 40MB of disk space saved due to strictly KDE updates. That's HUGE, and if they keep it up, KDE should shrink to a very clean manageable size. I'm glad KDE at this point is focusing more on maintenance than anything. The stability and usability is improving dramatically in every direction. Clean it up a little more so it boots faster and I think more people would be willing to switch. Most people who hate KDE today either haven't tried it in years, used it on a system that really shouldn't be running it (like a netbook), or dislike the appearance (when it's not that hard to change).
                      It'll be better in Frameworks 5 since there's quite a few things that are SUPPOSED to be moved to Qt, and out of KDElibs, as well as modularizing the existing libs. So you'll probably have to install more libraries over all, but they'll be of smaller size. So if you only want one KDE application on an otherwise all Gnome system, it shouldn't as quite as big of a dependency-pull. At least in theory *shrugs*

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                        The only reason I'm against this is because KDE is a bit on the heavy side, however, within the past 3 releases I had to have had at least 40MB of disk space saved due to strictly KDE updates. That's HUGE, and if they keep it up, KDE should shrink to a very clean manageable size. I'm glad KDE at this point is focusing more on maintenance than anything. The stability and usability is improving dramatically in every direction. Clean it up a little more so it boots faster and I think more people would be willing to switch. Most people who hate KDE today either haven't tried it in years, used it on a system that really shouldn't be running it (like a netbook), or dislike the appearance (when it's not that hard to change).
                        I'm sorry but just how is KDE in maintenance mode? They're getting close to completing a rather major overhaul of the infrastructure into KF5 and Plasma2, all the core plasmoids are being changed over to using QML in preparation for Plasma2, Kwin is being worked on heavily in order to get it ready for Wayland, etc. and that's for the desktop environment the applications themselves are advancing quickly and plasma-nm for instance has been totally overhauled and Kate has gotten a variety of new and interesting features. Sure Plasma Workspaces 1 was frozen, just as KDELibs is frozen but by no means does that mean that the project as a whole is in maintenance mode, it's just that it is now time to declare the old as "Done" so that more effort can be spent on shifting to the new.

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                        • #13
                          @ericg
                          I'd rather have many small packages than a few huge ones. Especially considering if not all of them are dependent upon each other. I don't particularly like having all of KDE updating at the same time, though I don't complain because I understand why they do it the way they do.

                          Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
                          I'm sorry but just how is KDE in maintenance mode? They're getting close to completing a rather major overhaul of the infrastructure into KF5 and Plasma2, all the core plasmoids are being changed over to using QML in preparation for Plasma2, Kwin is being worked on heavily in order to get it ready for Wayland, etc. and that's for the desktop environment the applications themselves are advancing quickly and plasma-nm for instance has been totally overhauled and Kate has gotten a variety of new and interesting features. Sure Plasma Workspaces 1 was frozen, just as KDELibs is frozen but by no means does that mean that the project as a whole is in maintenance mode, it's just that it is now time to declare the old as "Done" so that more effort can be spent on shifting to the new.
                          I didn't mean maintenance mode as a bad thing... I meant that for KDE 4 anyway, it's basically just bug fixes, performance improvements, and minor tweaks. If you don't call that maintenance, I don't know what is. Otherwise, I agree with you entirely, I think you just misinterpreted me, while I was also being a little too ambiguous.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
                            I'm sorry but just how is KDE in maintenance mode? They're getting close to completing a rather major overhaul of the infrastructure into KF5 and Plasma2, all the core plasmoids are being changed over to using QML in preparation for Plasma2, Kwin is being worked on heavily in order to get it ready for Wayland, etc. and that's for the desktop environment the applications themselves are advancing quickly and plasma-nm for instance has been totally overhauled and Kate has gotten a variety of new and interesting features. Sure Plasma Workspaces 1 was frozen, just as KDELibs is frozen but by no means does that mean that the project as a whole is in maintenance mode, it's just that it is now time to declare the old as "Done" so that more effort can be spent on shifting to the new.
                            I'm pretty sure he was referring to KDE 4.x being in maintenance mode.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by n3wu53r View Post
                              I'm pretty sure he was referring to KDE 4.x being in maintenance mode.
                              4.x is the LTS?

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