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  • #31
    old shirt

    old t-shirt, kde is slowly dying, but gnome 3 too. i really don t care about future. i managed a way to the problems if they appear. mir, wayland,, gtk or qt really don t care, the world changes we only need to adapt (but is painful for somepeople)
    Last edited by Andrecorreia; 05-14-2013, 08:25 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
      And AFAIK, wayland still doesn't have minimizing. So your point is?
      And what? GNOME doesn't have suport for it either and it's called a "feature"...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
        Fuck graphical interfaces. CLI is where it's at! Yeah!
        Why not have the best of both worlds?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by uid313 View Post
          What is that?
          Where can I find more information about it?
          http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...d=1#post331050

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Nuc!eoN View Post
            And what? GNOME doesn't have suport for it either and it's called a "feature"...
            LOL. I suppose you are being sarcastic, but in case you aren't, GNOME do have minimize functionality but it's disabled by default, and it isn't called a feature, it's a design decision. (I don't like it either way)

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            • #36
              Originally posted by F i L View Post
              Is it commercial or open-source?
              Totally unrelated topics. The commercial vs free (as in freedom)/open-source software is false dichotomy. There are closed-source programs like Adobe Flash Player which are not commercial, in the sense that you don't have to pay for them.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by intellivision View Post
                Why not have the best of both worlds?

                You just answered your own question

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                • #38
                  It's silly that everything must be shown on Apple hardware or on Macbook styled graphics.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by bo$$ View Post
                    too configurable. Plus too many colours. Dumb it down some more. Then it will be more in line with the [s]gnome shell[/s] unity philosophy.
                    ftfy.
                    ............

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Fenrin View Post
                      People at Canonical found probably out, that they need more love from KDE and KWin developers, so that Mir can be more successful. Martin Grässlin - a KWin developer - is not optimistic about the future of Ubuntus flavors.

                      He expressed his thoughts on Mir in a blog post recently: Mir in Kubuntu
                      Too bad he doesn't realize that if Ubuntu dies so does commercial software support for Linux. Losing the only successful Desktop Linux distro in history putting comercial hardware and software support back where it was in the early 2000's.

                      Originally posted by zester View Post
                      It's a "Were not Evil" - "Please like us again" - "Look at my KDE shirt" - "And were cool just check out the Mac!!!!" tactic. Unfortunately what they haven't figured out is that everyone other than the fanboys are thinking to themselves ....... "Yes you are" - "No, we fucking despise you" - "Nice I have one to except I earned mine by supporting the KDE community for 10+ years" - "Fuck You and Your Mac Douchbag".
                      And to everyone else you just look like the completely out of touch with reality basement dwelling nerd that you are for making that comment.

                      They are using the Retina air since it's the only cost effective very high resolution x86 machine on the market. Your only other options are ancient used medical imaging screens @ 3840x2400 screens like the IBM T221 that used a hack to make the system think that the screen was actually 4 lower resolution screens set in a grid with a bezel size of 0. Your only current option for a long time now was the obscenely priced Eizo FDH3601 @ 4096x2160.

                      Consumer 3840x2160 4K/QFHD LCDs are coming, and you can bet the first ones will be damn expensive when they arrive.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Kivada View Post
                        Too bad he doesn't realize that if Ubuntu dies so does commercial software support for Linux. Losing the only successful Desktop Linux distro in history putting comercial hardware and software support back where it was in the early 2000's.
                        Small price to pay. Replacements will spring up and hopefully they will be able to work together with the rest of the distributors and vendors. I don't believe that going mainstream at all costs justifies all means necessary.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
                          Too configurable. Plus too many colours. Dumb it down some more. Then it will be more in line with the gnome shell philosophy.
                          To be fair, while I did like parts of Gnome Shell such as the very precise global search, that was its main problem.
                          The problem was that it would lock up as soon as I typed in a letter, only when its opened after which it functions fine, but that delay could last up to five seconds and it wasn't confined to the search bar either, Gnome Shell seemed to freeze completely too.
                          At first I did blame a rouge plugin, but after uninstalling all of them and still had the same problem, I'd give it another release before I give it another try.

                          And if you think Twin is configurable, you should probably try it first, then try saying the same thing. It really isn't.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                            Mir doesn't even have windows yet, everything is full screen.
                            You're right in pointing that delay in the development but bear in mind that for small devices with screens ranging from 4 to 11 inches it doesn't make sense to have windowed applications with a visible area smaller than those devices' full screen
                            Last edited by meanpt; 05-15-2013, 04:55 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by r_a_trip View Post
                              Small price to pay. Replacements will spring up and hopefully they will be able to work together with the rest of the distributors and vendors. I don't believe that going mainstream at all costs justifies all means necessary.
                              Redhat and Centos have a far larger share of commercial packages, Just about anything VFX related. NukeX probably cost more than every commercial package canonical offers, forget about Katana and Arnold there so expensive that if you have to ask about price you simple cant afford them. Then you have Maya, Mudbox, Motionbuilder, SoftImage, Modo, Mari, Hiero, Ocular(Plugin) RealFlow, and a metric fuck ton of other VFX packages for RedHat and Centos. Ubuntu doesn’t even register when it comes to commercial software support. And this is just VFX related stuff we are not even going to go into all the Pro Audio related shit none of us have ever heard of simply do to that stuff costing a small fortune.

                              Half of you are hitting Google right now. Wondering whats "NukeX"!!!! Well don't bother its a $8,000 compositor that slaps the dogshit out of Adobe AfterEffects and then shits on its head.

                              Ohhh crap don't forget about DaVinci Resolve now your getting into the $100,000. Granted the program is free but what they don't tell you is about that $100,000 your going to drop on gear to properly use it.
                              And the free version is only for Windows and Mac, but you have to run it on linux to even use it lol. Its a paradox.

                              Spend some time on Mari's forums and you will see the all to common "Windows Performance Problems" post, and then you will see me, having to break the news to them. And then point them to Centos. And the Mari Linux packages.

                              Its sad but funny at the same time because you get all these windows users sporting there new Windows 7/8 computers wanting to get into VFX talking about all the cash they just spent and research done. And then some vet has to break the bad news and explane that yes you will find a few Windows machines but there not actually used.
                              Last edited by zester; 05-15-2013, 05:15 AM.

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                              • #45
                                I suppose the big question here is how did Canonical get access to a pre-production Macbook?

                                Apple shouldn't like them that much.

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