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  • #16
    Michael, there's a typo in your news. More important than slower ARMv7 processors is support for even slower ARMv6 (which is what the big news is about).

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    • #17
      Compared to the typical firefox release it has many new features indeed. In my opinion the most important by far is H.264 support. With that feature and an addon to change the user agent on a per website basis I can have flash disabled most of the time at last. I hope the guys at mozilla bring this support on all os soon.

      By the way, I don't know why these guys are investing time in supporting ARMv6 when firefox is obviously a resource hungry browser. Minimum RAM required is 384 MB so I don't think there will be many ARMv6 devices out there that can use firefox.
      Last edited by funtastic; 04-03-2013, 04:00 AM.

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      • #18
        what exactly is private browsing?
        Thanks

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        • #19
          It's a mode that firefox wont save any information at all about what you did while in that session. No cache, no temp files, no history.

          Great for keeping my old lady from knowing about *hub

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          • #20
            Originally posted by kokoko3k View Post
            The memory used by Chrome/ium is really too much (with several tabs open it can be 4x the ram taken by firefox), so it will never be an option for me.
            Chromium used to open very fast in the initial releases, but now is a PIG!

            Firefox is becoming better,faster and more efficient from release to release... can't wait for ionmonkey!
            What I hate most about Firefox however is that it continuously hangs, and even if it's only on one tab, the whole browser hangs. This isn't the case on Chrome because every tab is a separate process.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Nuc!eoN View Post
              What I hate most about Firefox however is that it continuously hangs, and even if it's only on one tab, the whole browser hangs. This isn't the case on Chrome because every tab is a separate process.
              I don't know about firefox on linux (last time I was using linux regularly was 2 years ago, and firefox sucked there), but at least on windows and android, it is very solid if you don't use flash. I would recommend activating the click to play option in about:config.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Nuc!eoN View Post
                What I hate most about Firefox however is that it continuously hangs, and even if it's only on one tab, the whole browser hangs. This isn't the case on Chrome because every tab is a separate process.
                Yeah, it hangs here too. Didn't use to happen before the rapid release cycle. We'll see if Firefox 20 improves stability, because for me Chromium is not an option unless they allow incognito mode by default on all new tabs.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by wargames View Post
                  Yeah, it hangs here too. Didn't use to happen before the rapid release cycle. We'll see if Firefox 20 improves stability, because for me Chromium is not an option unless they allow incognito mode by default on all new tabs.
                  One important function I'm really missing in Chromium is an Offline-mode.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Marc Driftmeyer View Post
                    I can crash the latest Iceweasel/Firefox from Experimental in Debian, every day. Not that I'm impressed with Debian maintenance that has slowly eroded the past 4 years, but I have even less respect for the XUL world of Firefox.
                    I am also a Debian (wheezy) user and I have to confess that I had mixed success with Debian's Iceweasel in the past - basically it should be an identical copy but it never felt like this. Therefore I switched to Firefox and I have to say that I did not face any major issues anymore.

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                    • #25
                      For Android in particular, the google browsers, whether "built in android" or chrome (they're the same browser with different menus), REALLY REALLY REALLY suck. Like donkey balls suck. They're so damned slow. This is something that really pisses me off, because when you're trying to sell your platform to people who aren't smart enough not to pick apple or rim trash phones for dumb reasons, they'll take one look at the web browser and see how DAMNED SLOW it is, and hate the platform for it. Seriously, google, king of the internet, makes the world's worst web browser for their own platform.

                      I did a comparison on some fairly complex HTML4 and 5 sites with android-built-in, chrome, and firefox on Android 4.0 and 4.2, using a cheapo chinese A10 tablet. Naturally, android-built-in (4.0 compiled by china, 4.2 compiled by me) and chrome (compiled by google) feel approximately the same, but really really slow. We're talking choppy scrolling, choppy animations, choppy zooming, very very unresponsive to clicking stuff (buttons) about 2-3 second delay before there is any indication of it doing something. Switch to firefox, totally fluid scrolling, animations, and zooming, and IMMEDIATE reaction to clicks with ZERO perceptible delay.

                      I suppose that on hardware that is stronger than a single-core A10, the google browsers won't be quite that bad, but bad enough. Its actually embarrassing how bad they are. Talk to people about mobile platforms, they say they like icrap, you say android, they complain about the browser. If they're slightly technically minded, you can easily say to install firefox, but if they're dumb-ass "normal" people, they give you a blank stare. I could theorize that google might be doing this to PUSH people towards 3rd party software, which makes a bit of sense from a "concerning anti-competition" perspective -- you have the whole platform, provide some areas for improvement that can be filled by 3rd party software so that you aren't giving the impression of monopolizing the position... but dumbasses are dumbasses. They take a bad browser and blame android for it.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by kokoko3k View Post
                        The memory used by Chrome/ium is really too much (with several tabs open it can be 4x the ram taken by firefox), so it will never be an option for me.
                        Chromium used to open very fast in the initial releases, but now is a PIG!

                        Firefox is becoming better,faster and more efficient from release to release... can't wait for ionmonkey!
                        I have 8 gigs of ram in my machine. At any given time I have at least 6.5 gigs free. If Chrome wants to use a gig of memory by launching each tab as its own process and increase my productivity while each tab loads independently, then that's a win for Chrome any day.

                        I used to be on the FF bandwagon, but at some point I can't stand background tabs interrupting my experience in foreground tabs, and that's where Chrome shines.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                          For Android in particular, the google browsers, whether "built in android" or chrome (they're the same browser with different menus), REALLY REALLY REALLY suck. Like donkey balls suck. They're so damned slow. This is something that really pisses me off, because when you're trying to sell your platform to people who aren't smart enough not to pick apple or rim trash phones for dumb reasons, they'll take one look at the web browser and see how DAMNED SLOW it is, and hate the platform for it. Seriously, google, king of the internet, makes the world's worst web browser for their own platform.

                          I did a comparison on some fairly complex HTML4 and 5 sites with android-built-in, chrome, and firefox on Android 4.0 and 4.2, using a cheapo chinese A10 tablet. Naturally, android-built-in (4.0 compiled by china, 4.2 compiled by me) and chrome (compiled by google) feel approximately the same, but really really slow. We're talking choppy scrolling, choppy animations, choppy zooming, very very unresponsive to clicking stuff (buttons) about 2-3 second delay before there is any indication of it doing something. Switch to firefox, totally fluid scrolling, animations, and zooming, and IMMEDIATE reaction to clicks with ZERO perceptible delay.

                          I suppose that on hardware that is stronger than a single-core A10, the google browsers won't be quite that bad, but bad enough. Its actually embarrassing how bad they are. Talk to people about mobile platforms, they say they like icrap, you say android, they complain about the browser. If they're slightly technically minded, you can easily say to install firefox, but if they're dumb-ass "normal" people, they give you a blank stare. I could theorize that google might be doing this to PUSH people towards 3rd party software, which makes a bit of sense from a "concerning anti-competition" perspective -- you have the whole platform, provide some areas for improvement that can be filled by 3rd party software so that you aren't giving the impression of monopolizing the position... but dumbasses are dumbasses. They take a bad browser and blame android for it.
                          Thank you! Someone noticed that the king is a little bare on the clothes situation.

                          My theory is that googlers either a) just use the latest nexus or b) just plain do not use android. Have they ever picked up a mid-range device and tried to use it? Slow, bad multitasking, etc. Of course, the newest android which your device will never get will fix that. For sure.

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                          • #28
                            Not having to stop everything Iím doing to launch a private session is a great improvement!

                            WRT the single-threaded thing I have to agree firefox can be really sluggish on my Atom netbook, even with as few as 3 or 4 tabs. I have less problems on my Core i3Ö

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                            • #29
                              I love Mozilla and WANT to use Firefox as my main browser but I can't. On my Linux systems Firefox's interface always feels so sluggish

                              Just open the menus or click a html Select box and browse the options, you can feel the lag. Whereas Chrome feels light, even if in actual fact it easily uses a gig of memory, but anyhoo...

                              Hopefully it improves in the future.

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                              • #30
                                "Firefox 20 Drops In New Private, Download Features"

                                I misread that as "Firefox 20 Drops In New Private Download Feature". I had a hard time figuring out how that could possibly work

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