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  • #16
    Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
    If only rasterman loved the file manager as much as terminology.
    Limited time. Too many things to do. E's FM only got so much love in it because time has to be spent elsewhere. Some day it'll get more time invested. Sorry

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ciplogic View Post
      +1

      It looks fun to watch, but this "kind" of features excluding tyls ("tyled list"), I don't see any benefit of them.

      Anyway, it is really refreshing to see a new approach for the issue that a lot of people would want to solve. Maybe it will be the starting point for a Total Commander like on Linux that have a better visuals and better integration with video playback, pictures and such.
      Ummm tyls == terminology ls (primitive ls replacement with thumbnails/icons). If you spend your day with text config files and thats it.. it's useless to you (beyond giving you visual markers that easily show directory from file etc.), but if you don't see the utility of it, you do not spend your days in your terminal in a directory full of images and you are popping up image viewers all the time to wonder "so what was bg_vertical_shaded.png vs bg_vertical_dim.png"... having an instant previewed thumbnails tells you that with no extra work. It's a time saver, if you ever have to deal with visual data during your day in a terminal. e.g. editing web pages would make use of this a lot as you edit the css/html maybe in vi, but you'd like to quickly see the images in the dir without bringing up an image viewer.

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      • #18
        Nice concept!
        Too bad that tyls/tycat doesn't work with tmux yet. :-(

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        • #19
          Got to admit, this looks really cool.

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          • #20
            E and everything surrounding it looks really bright at the moment!

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            • #21
              If this dev keeps up the pace and can bring similar quality to file manager (or even turn this into the file manager, combining file manager&terminal once and for all??) Where i see doom ahead on ubuntu's path, i only see shiny days for enlightenment.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by raster View Post
                Limited time. Too many things to do. E's FM only got so much love in it because time has to be spent elsewhere. Some day it'll get more time invested. Sorry
                Please do not apologize, we really appreciate the work you and the others have put into this desktop environment. It's really nice. But why not go with PCManFM, or just use libfm for a a file manager? I find PCManFM to be quite stable.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by raster View Post
                  Limited time. Too many things to do. E's FM only got so much love in it because time has to be spent elsewhere. Some day it'll get more time invested. Sorry
                  Yes i know you have limited people working on E. And i also know that it's geared towards a more geeky crowd who will more likely use terminals.

                  There are just some things that the FM is missing to be OK for the joe average user.

                  Thanks for all the work.


                  Originally posted by Rexilion
                  Please do not apologize, we really appreciate the work you and the others have put into this desktop environment. It's really nice. But why not go with PCManFM, or just use libfm for a a file manager? I find PCManFM to be quite stable.
                  Native FM a must have for any desktop. And there aren't many things missing to make EFM kick ass. If someone finds the time to implement the stuff/features on the bug tracker it will be awesome.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Rexilion View Post
                    Please do not apologize, we really appreciate the work you and the others have put into this desktop environment. It's really nice. But why not go with PCManFM, or just use libfm for a a file manager? I find PCManFM to be quite stable.
                    because the fm doubles as the file selector (file selector is a full fm with dnd and all the rest, just in list mode), so we needed it in the code anyway. also there is no way to integrate desktop icons without being inside the wm code and having access to the canvas. also things that will use other toolkits will just look like junk in e as they also don't integrate. we look silly then using "pcmanfm" for example that doesn't even use the libraries we wrote for the wm and then we get frustrated when it doesn't work how we'd like and can't fix it without replacing it anyway as above.

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                    • #25
                      For a fully-featured file manager

                      For a fully-featured file manager, tyls would need to support all these things. I think the interesting situation then becomes how to build applications that live in terminal output. Having crossover between interactivity & scriptability has some interesting unexplored area.

                      I've been hoping for years to write a "command-line" program where I can hand intelligent GUIs to users:
                      I can specify a UI XML (thinking Qt) and read from the UI or wait on a change.
                      Now, I'm stuck with a multi-threaded (for background work), Object-Oriented setup.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by zyxw View Post
                        Maybe it's just missing some basic interaction with mouse, like change directory, list and order to be (also) the file manager
                        Well, then it'd be closer to Rodent File Manager (;

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