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  • Xamarin 2.0, Their New Code IDE Is Not For Linux

    Phoronix: Xamarin 2.0, Their New Code IDE Is Not For Linux

    Xamarin, the company founded by Nat Friedman and Miguel de Icaza for driving the development of Mono, has introduced a new Integrated Development Environment (IDE). They have also introduced a Component Store and made other changes for what they are calling Xamarin 2.0...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTMwNzE

  • #2
    And this is "Linux hardware reviews, benchmarking, and gmaing"...how!?

    Might as well start posting news about new releases of Garageband and Internet Explorer while you're at it, Michael!

    Seriously, why is Miguel De Icaza still on the GNOME team? Besides the glaringly obvious conflict of interest and all-round horrible decisions, he's clearly on the front lines of Microsoft's old Triple-E (Embrace, Extend, Extinguish) tactic, and is no doubt receiving money to do so from MS themselves.

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    • #3
      Who cares about this moron Icaza? Xamarin is dead to Linux. I would like to know why gnome didn't kick this moron from the planet gnome, yet? It's strange and suspicious.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by blinxwang View Post
        Might as well start posting news about new releases of Garageband and Internet Explorer while you're at it, Michael!

        Seriously, why is Miguel De Icaza still on the GNOME team? Besides the glaringly obvious conflict of interest and all-round horrible decisions, he's clearly on the front lines of Microsoft's old Triple-E (Embrace, Extend, Extinguish) tactic, and is no doubt receiving money to do so from MS themselves.
        Indeed. Thank god Gnome didn't follow the Mono. De Icaza and Mono had become Microsoft's Trojan horse and they do indeed receive $ from Microsoft. According to M$ “Every piece of code written to our standards is a small victory”

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        • #5
          and then there's Qt5

          With Qt 5.1 there will be Qt for both Android and iOS so Mono can go and .... themselves together with all other MS stuff. Too bad cause actually C# isn't that bad a a language but ... oh well. With Qt I've found that C++ is pretty fun too.

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          • #6
            Xamarin has apparently a market segment there they can be profitable. Good for them!
            Most people probably thought mono should be dead at this point after Novell ended their support.

            I think its kinda funny its apparently exist a demand to do net development for iOS.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mcirsta View Post
              With Qt 5.1 there will be Qt for both Android and iOS so Mono can go and .... themselves together with all other MS stuff. Too bad cause actually C# isn't that bad a a language but ... oh well. With Qt I've found that C++ is pretty fun too.
              Also, writing qml interfaces to fit on every device I target is much less painful than doing Mono's GTK# nonsense. I think this basically spells the "go fuck yourself Mono" nail in the coffin of any interest I had in it.

              Though C# is a nice language. Much nicer than Java at least, in that "tons of LoC for no purpose other than to make programs look big" camp of static bytecode languages.

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              • #8
                It's a shame because C# is a lot more enjoyable to work with than Java.
                Well, C++11 is pretty good and brought a lot of high-level features that I enjoy(ed) in C# at least.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zanny View Post
                  Also, writing qml interfaces to fit on every device I target is much less painful than doing Mono's GTK# nonsense. I think this basically spells the "go fuck yourself Mono" nail in the coffin of any interest I had in it.

                  Though C# is a nice language. Much nicer than Java at least, in that "tons of LoC for no purpose other than to make programs look big" camp of static bytecode languages.

                  What is a "static bytecode language"? The only thing that is static is a compiler. If i write a C++ program i can staticaly compile it for x86 for example, or i can compile it with LLVM if i have a C++ front-end for LLVM and the binary will be equaly fast wile halfe the size.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by peppercats View Post
                    It's a shame because C# is a lot more enjoyable to work with than Java.
                    Well, C++11 is pretty good and brought a lot of high-level features that I enjoy(ed) in C# at least.
                    also, look into: D + MonoD or Vala

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                    • #11
                      From the end-user POV in my respect, I remove all instances of mono. I'm running Cinnamint on my main machine and it just runs a lot more reliably afterwards, with less crashing. No banshee for me. Mint could still use some polishing but that's understandable considering their migration off older techs. Cinnamon definately smacks your desktop performance (Athlon X4 955 and Ti550 with Xedgers binary) compared to the likes of Mate, but eh. It's rool purdy.

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                      • #12
                        XamarinStudios 4 is MonoDevelop 4 (With a new name)

                        XamarinStudios 4 is "Open Source" because its just MonoDevelop 4 with a new name.
                        Just like Googles Chrome is basically Chromium shipped with closed source peaces, it looks like Xamarin is just doing the same thing. This does not mean "XamarinStudios" is a closed source project. Even looking in the about dialog it say's its under the GPL licence.

                        Here is even a commit to MonoDevelop(aka XamarinStudios) on github calling MonoDevelop XamarinStudios: https://github.com/mono/monodevelop/...d8dfd7181fd64e

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                        • #13
                          The title of this post is not accurate.

                          In response to: "Xamarin 2.0, Their New Code IDE Is Not For Linux"
                          -- This is simply not true. Because the IDE is just MonoDevelop 4 with a new name. I would suggest updating the first post as to not give false or misleading information.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by stiiixy View Post
                            From the end-user POV in my respect, I remove all instances of mono. I'm running Cinnamint on my main machine and it just runs a lot more reliably afterwards, with less crashing. No banshee for me. Mint could still use some polishing but that's understandable considering their migration off older techs. Cinnamon definately smacks your desktop performance (Athlon X4 955 and Ti550 with Xedgers binary) compared to the likes of Mate, but eh. It's rool purdy.
                            Less crashing because you uninstalled Mono makes literally no sense... its not even running unless you run an application that uses it.... While I think its stupid not every little peace of mono isn't Open Source (like MonoTouch & MonoDroid), most of it is and its funny how many C# mono bashing is going to take place here based on false information. Mono is not going away and in fact is getting a lot bigger. Its a great development environment for Linux and for good reason. There are a lot of great developers out there using C# and for them to have a reason to support Linux is a good thing, not a bad one.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by blinxwang View Post
                              Seriously, why is Miguel De Icaza still on the GNOME team?
                              What's your definition of being "on the GNOME team"? It is well known that he isn't active since many years.

                              Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
                              I would like to know why gnome didn't kick this moron from the planet gnome, yet?
                              From https://live.gnome.org/PlanetGnome

                              I stopped contributing to GNOME two years ago. Can I still stay there?

                              Sure, no problem. We still love you

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