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  • #76
    Originally posted by gedgon View Post
    Yes, kinda works now. Unfortunately, results are far from reliable.



    Maybe I'm slow or something but how do you that conclusion with kfind? It's so many filters on nepmuk in what and where it index that I really don't have any idea how I should interpret the numbers.
    But all files I have tried search for I found at lest.

    //edit I did a comparison of places the file index and the files + folders i got with a * search. I had 10827 files in the register. When I searched i got 8747 + 2076 =10823. 4 hits less than places in the index. I don't now if this is a bug or the 4 places is used to something else? So it really don't say anything
    Last edited by Akka; 02-09-2013, 07:17 PM.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Akka View Post
      Maybe I'm slow or something but how do you that conclusion with kfind? It's so many filters on nepmuk in what and where it index that I really don't have any idea how I should interpret the numbers.
      But all files I have tried search for I found at lest.

      //edit I did a comparison of places the file index and the files + folders i got with a * search. I had 10827 files in the register. When I searched i got 8747 + 2076 =10823. 4 hits less than places in the index. I don't now if this is a bug or the 4 places is used to something else? So it really don't say anything
      Indexed data disk stores ~60 000 files. None of them is hidden/excluded from indexing. Only ~half of them was indexed (level 1). Just for confirmation, Kfind and Dolphin using Nepomuk database had the same task in this example, to find all images. Only kfind did it correctly.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by gedgon View Post
        Indexed data disk stores ~60 000 files. None of them is hidden/excluded from indexing. Only ~half of them was indexed (level 1). Just for confirmation, Kfind and Dolphin using Nepomuk database had the same task in this example, to find all images. Only kfind did it correctly.
        No I don't think kfind use nepomuk. Not that I tried but I'm almost sure about that kfind use a locate database if you activate the databse function.
        Have you removed all filters from nepomuk and do you index hidden configuration files and son on.
        By the way how do the inotify value affect this?
        Last edited by Akka; 02-09-2013, 07:51 PM.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Akka View Post
          No I don't think kfind use nepomuk.
          Of course not, that's the point.

          Originally posted by Akka View Post
          Not that I tried but I'm almost sure about that kfind use a locate database if you activate the databse function.
          I wasn't aware of kfind and locate integration, anyway I'm not using locate, so it's acts like frontend to find command.


          Originally posted by Akka View Post
          Haw you removed all filters from nepomuk and do you index hidden configuration files and son on.
          Yes, like i mentioned earlier.

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          • #80
            After tried a little, I don't get nepomuk to index my hidden folders. I don't found any filter alternative about that. The result is that do not find my hidden files and folder. No idea if it a bug or lack of a feature. Maybe that is why you get different result?

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Akka View Post
              After tried a little, I don't get nepomuk to index my hidden folders. I don't found any filter alternative about that. The result is that do not find my hidden files and folder. No idea if it a bug or lack of a feature. Maybe that is why you get different result?
              Hidden folders are omitted by default. System Settings -> Desktop Search -> Customize Folders
              Hidden files in search result window are probably just hidden Press "Alt + ." in Dolphin.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by gedgon View Post
                Hidden folders are omitted by default. System Settings -> Desktop Search -> Customize Folders
                Hidden files in search result window are probably just hidden Press "Alt + ." in Dolphin.
                What I can see it do not work.
                But in the nepomukstrigirc file iI found
                Code:
                index hidden folders=false
                4.10 dont use strigi anymore but maybe its same configuration files. If I remove the file it its always recreated at least.

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                • #83
                  Uh-oh.
                  I just read
                  http://dilfridge.blogspot.de/2013/02...es-and-qt.html

                  Hmm. Maybe I'll wait with the installation a bit until this has settled.

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                  • #84
                    Most likely you're not only missing your hidden folders, but a lot more. Recursive indexing is broken in 4.10.0.
                    https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314559

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by dilfridge View Post
                      Most likely you're not only missing your hidden folders, but a lot more. Recursive indexing is broken in 4.10.0.
                      https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314559
                      That is fixed and at lest Arch Linux has already shipped the fixes.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Adarion View Post
                        Uh-oh.
                        I just read
                        http://dilfridge.blogspot.de/2013/02...es-and-qt.html

                        Hmm. Maybe I'll wait with the installation a bit until this has settled.
                        “The Qt bug only becomes fatal for some compiler options”.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                          “The Qt bug only becomes fatal for some compiler options”.
                          It is a very much about it in the Gentoo forum. I don't almost find the specific problem mentioned anywhere else? Has all the binary dists shipped qt with the right CXXFLAGS? I have not experienced the problem in my arch installation at least and as I understand the pkgbuild arch don't build qt with the Os flag?
                          Last edited by Akka; 02-10-2013, 07:58 PM.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                            “The Qt bug only becomes fatal for some compiler options”.
                            The bug seems not to occur if Qt is compiled with CFLAGS="-Os". Cause unknown.

                            Well, most people likely use -O2 and march=native. It works with -Os wich is normally used only by people on embedded or old Geode CPUs (like me) or VIA C3/C7 (like me). Okay and these are 32bit anyway. But on all other computers (AMD 64) that would probably be a problem. And most (average) people today use an intel or amd on amd64. Gentoo still has KDE SC 4.10 in unstable. maybe that is the reason.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Adarion View Post
                              ...Gentoo still has KDE SC 4.10 in unstable. maybe that is the reason.
                              Usually, to go stable on Gentoo a package needs to be at least 30 days on testing without any bug report.

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                              • #90
                                KDE is PURE GARBAGE! It's overbloated crap. It freezes my machine after a while, especially with Firefox.

                                Also, who gives a crap about widgets?!? All of a sudden, the time will only show UTC. I wonder how many people switch from KDE to something else. I bet that is that is the highest of any DE switch. KDE to *anything*.

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