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  • #31
    Native or not, this doesn't change anything to the fundamental problem: in the facts non-open-standard-based document formats owned by a commercial company. Whether they port their suite or not, still a big no-no.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
      What exactly was I generalizing?
      You are hilarious. You really need to ask?

      Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
      And no it won't be open sourced but only zealots care about that. The rest want to use office and would gladly to that on linux if it were available.
      1. "but only zealots care about that" really? Are the crazy aluminium foil hat wearing people really the only ones who care about open source? I didnt know everything was so simple. hmmm that wouldn't have been a generalisation would it?

      2. "The rest want to use" Since we are a world of black and white and you have kindly told us what the crazies want, everyone else MUST want to do what you want to do. Wherefore art thou Generalisations?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by t0ken View Post
        Exactly. I'd welcome a Linux port of MS Office. If it sucks, hey I still have LibreOffice. I love having CHOICE to use whatever fits my needs, not what someone else thinks I should use.
        Yes, more choice is good. As long as it doesn't kill LibreOffice, it's fine. But beware of vendor lock-in and all the embrace extend extinguish practices Microsoft's follows whenever they can. That includes their own OOXML (internal memory dump) "standard" they got approved through bribery and corruption, only to kill ODF, but to which they never intended to comply: "get this approved and just move on" said at Microsoft.
        Last edited by newwen; 02-06-2013, 07:02 AM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
          But I do fear Richard Stallman jumping on this and his army of idiots following him to do whatever is necessary to thwart Microsoft's plans.
          I think you can't even spell the word "Philosopher" hey do a reality check RMS do have a wikipedia page you don't have a wikipedia page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman

          Your babbling is just SPAM without any relevance.

          I'm sure RMS beat you in any tropic in a nano-second.

          but go one write bullshit no one will ever try to stop you.

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          • #35
            Linux has already won the battle for the Desktop. I have been saying this for the last 3-4 years. It is clear to all of us who follow the trends of technology.

            It may not be clearly visible NOW, but it is inevitable that Linux will become the defacto OS for desktops a few years in the future. Microsoft can't compete. It was clearly demonstrated when they spent so much money in Vista and they still released a crappy product no one wanted. They cannot keep the pace, they need more and more money to provide some noticable improvement while the no cost alternative keeps getting better and better. The truth of the matter is that there is no need for Windows anymore. Only inertia keeps them in their position for the time being.

            Seriously, what was so much improved in Vista, 7, and 8? After 12 years since XP, what is the real progress? 7 only tweaked the window manager a bit and 8 replaced the Start menu with a Gnome Shell-like alternative, that is all. All other improvements are so minor they are not even worth mentioning. Other "improvements" between versions are artificial, for example no IE 10 for Vista etc...

            So Microsoft will do the smart thing, and embrace Linux and GNU, instead of hopelessly fighting it. They can make much money through Office and .Net if they are smart. Windows is a dead horse, it is to their best interest to let it fade away. But this will happen gradually. It will be a slow process, but this is how things will turn out in the end.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
              One of the reasons of poor linux adoption was that it didn't support office. Now maybe, hopefully, it will. If you consider this to be bad just because it won't be open source then you are a zealot. No generalization. Just defining the term. Thus I defined a way to spot a zealot. He's against office on linux. Office on linux will be good for both microsoft and linux. But I do fear Richard Stallman jumping on this and his army of idiots following him to do whatever is necessary to thwart Microsoft's plans.
              Irrelevant to the subject, but you wrote:
              (if "consider this to be bad" then "zealot") Thus ("zealot" is "against office on linux")
              , or, in simpler for
              (A => B) => (A = B)
              , which is awfully wrong.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Tinuva View Post
                Actually that have been done before in the past, there was a IE 4 Linux version 1.0 or something, but as quickly as it appeared, it disappeared again. Sadly I can't find a link now but it was there a few years ago.
                There's never been an IE for Linux. There was, however, IE for Unix.

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX

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                • #38
                  Yeah, this morning I opened the window to get some fresh air and I almost got smacked by a low-flying pig ...
                  Fucking Office, get Bill Gates in here!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by timothyja View Post
                    Rubbish. The core code would have been reused and only the GUI would have been written from scratch.

                    If your going to make such clearly wild claims please at least attempt to provide some evidence.
                    They are not wild claims, they are common knowledge for everyone who's used Office for Mac.

                    It has incompatibilities with Windows office using the exact same doc format both are supposed to fully support - how do you explain that if the common code, ie format support, is shared?

                    Updates for it take much longer, sometimes years longer, than those for w32 office.


                    Have some links in addition:
                    http://antonym.org/2006/08/ms-office...l-updated.html
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microso...Mac_since_1995

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by curaga View Post
                      They are not wild claims, they are common knowledge for everyone who's used Office for Mac.

                      It has incompatibilities with Windows office using the exact same doc format both are supposed to fully support - how do you explain that if the common code, ie format support, is shared?

                      Updates for it take much longer, sometimes years longer, than those for w32 office.


                      Have some links in addition:
                      http://antonym.org/2006/08/ms-office...l-updated.html
                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microso...Mac_since_1995
                      None of this supports your claim office for Mac was written from scratch. There are incompatibilies between different versions on windows this does not mean they do not share code bases. Also just because VB is not supported in mac also does not mean the do not share code bases.

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