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  • With E17 Out, Enlightenment E18 Is In Development

    Phoronix: With E17 Out, Enlightenment E18 Is In Development

    The first point release of the Enlightenment E17 desktop was released today. In addition, an early development snapshot of E18 was released too...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTI4OTI

  • #2
    Yay. Only 10 more years for the beta.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cthulhux View Post
      Yay. Only 10 more years for the beta.
      The SVN version from E17 I checked out 1,5 years ago works without many problems. Consider it beta after 5 years :P .

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      • #4
        "Working" and "released" are different. I am pretty sure the current E18 state is working too.

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        • #5
          Port it to Wayland

          They should port it to Wayland.

          The Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (EFL) is ported to Wayland.

          http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Wayland
          http://wayland.freedesktop.org/efl.html

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          • #6
            Originally posted by uid313 View Post
            They should port it to Wayland.

            The Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (EFL) is ported to Wayland.

            http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Wayland
            http://wayland.freedesktop.org/efl.html
            Once the desktop bits are ready in wayland i believe it will be one of the first DEs that will run on it.

            On topic i don't think -or rather hope- e18 will take as much as e17. It will more likely be e17 with some features added. There are quite some stuff missing and there are annoying bugs. But those will more likely be addressed on the next bug release.

            Hopefully they will also put some time in entrance since its something thats missing. Starting it with another DM feels inconsistent.

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            • #7
              Nice to be reminded that this still exists. I tried E17 several years ago and it was very nice looking, but it wasn't quite usable yet. It lacked configuration utilities (and had binary configuration files!) and there were a lot of window positioning annoyances etc.

              I just downloaded E17 and I'm going to see about building it.

              I remember back around 1999/2000 Enlightenment was often used as the window manager for Gnome. That was pretty slick back then... I used that in Mandrake 7. I think Enlightenment was one of the first window managers to have shaped window decorations. Another thing I liked about Gnome/Enlightenment was how the virtual desktops were connected... you could slide around with your mouse.

              I later used AfterStep for that reason... I had my workspaces configured in a 4x4 square, which gave me 16 interconnected desktops. But then they completely ruined AfterStep with version 2.

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              • #8
                E17 has great technical foundations, but the polish and look of the DE part is just... horrible. It is an inconsistent mess, in both look and usability.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by brent View Post
                  E17 has great technical foundations, but the polish and look of the DE part is just... horrible. It is an inconsistent mess, in both look and usability.
                  There are annoyances and missing features but its far more usable that Gnome 3.x



                  Also:
                  http://e18releasemanager.wordpress.com/

                  Lets hope it will be incremental to e17 and not take another decade.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                    Once the desktop bits are ready in wayland i believe it will be one of the first DEs that will run on it.

                    On topic i don't think -or rather hope- e18 will take as much as e17. It will more likely be e17 with some features added. There are quite some stuff missing and there are annoying bugs. But those will more likely be addressed on the next bug release.

                    Hopefully they will also put some time in entrance since its something thats missing. Starting it with another DM feels inconsistent.
                    I just hope they consider making another front-end to lightdm. Saves them some work implementing boring things nobody really cares about and makes them focus on stuff they do really good IMHO.

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                    • #11
                      This turned out rather well for me and it was fairly easy to build. (just a minor annoyance getting it to find LUA... had to come up with a pkgconfig file for it)

                      This. E17.1, has come a long way... I could use this. It looks nice, with the default dark theme and I've got smooth compositing effects with OpenGL.

                      (I don't normally like the animations, but I'm playing with this. The only compositing I use normally are some transparency effects in XFCE, but I like it for a purpose, so I can make windows transparent to see and read text behind them... inactive windows and clicking on title bar to drag)

                      It lacks some configurability... I hope that's coming soon. It's got a nice panel, but few configuration options. I had to "trick" it into showing some of the launchers I wanted (I think it automatically grabbed some from a RazorQT/OpenBox setup that I still have). I had to find the .desktop files it put in ~/.local/share/applications and rename/edit them to get them to be and do what I wanted. Weird. It also grabbed menu entries from other environments (KDE, XFCE etc.)

                      Focus follows mouse (hover to focus)... check. Being able to move to the virtual desktops by moving my mouse to the screen edges... check. These are things that are essential to me.

                      I normally use XFCE, (configured the way I like it, with a large auto hiding panel with lots of launchers etc.) and this is somewhat like it. I'll have to find a way to get that e17 panel ("Shelf"?) more to my liking.

                      Of course, I'll have to find the time to spend with it. I have only used it for relatively few hours. (had to use my regular XFCE setup while busy and needing to get shit done)

                      I'll try E18 when it's a little further along. I put all of this in /opt/enlightenment for ease of removal/upgrading later.

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