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  • #16
    Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
    You say this, yet the GNOME leadership has led the project to the point where it is one of the most forked projects ever. All because of lack of vision and flexibility.

    Now if you want to run a GTK desktop, you have to pick between GNOME Shell, Unity, Mate, Cinnamon, XFCE, LXDE.

    A little bit of flexibility would have prevented most of this splintering. All of these were over things that went directly against the wishes of the community.
    Gnome being forked only tells you it is worth forking. Hell most forks are just shitty people who wants the fame.

    Some ladies are too ugly to rape, and some DEs are too shitty to fork.
    Last edited by funkSTAR; 12-31-2012, 07:44 AM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
      LOL. No one tries to kill KDE. First of all it is doing a great job of killing it self and secondly freedom loving people are busy doing something else than using the Qtrap. What do U expect? Full embracement of Qt, Apple and so on? No thank you.
      I expect fully embracing Microsoft Dot Net, like the founder of the GNOME project, and I also expect making it a part of the default GNOME installation.

      ORLY? Will the accept a GPLed patch? Hell no.
      Will GTK guys? What happened to GTK-Qt then? That's GPL.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
        some DEs are too shitty to fork.
        Not to shitty to shamelessly copy, though.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
          Not to shitty to shamelessly copy, though.
          Sure. Ideas are free to copy. KDEs shitty code is not worth copying due to Qt-deps. And it is only getting worse! The shitty but free kdelibs are going down the drain due to shit coders leaving shity KDE. A future KDE app is plain Qt app. The much thinner future framwwork for KDE only spells motre deps on the freedom hating Qt. Nice for Qt, not nice for the freedom.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
            Sure. Ideas are free to copy. KDEs shitty code is not worth copying due to Qt-deps. And it is only getting worse! The shitty but free kdelibs are going down the drain due to shit coders leaving shity KDE. A future KDE app is plain Qt app. The much thinner future framwwork for KDE only spells motre deps on the freedom hating Qt. Nice for Qt, not nice for the freedom.
            If you want to become a good troll, you should sublimely intertwine bullshit with facts.

            Right now, you are writing stuff which is 100% the opposite of truth, so nobody will take you seriously. In reality, KDE has always provided functionality that was used by applications, while GNOME has mostly been a panel for starting pure GTK apps. And non-GTK apps like OpenOffice and Firefox.

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            • #21
              The free software fragmatism is like evolution; no matter how powerful the T-rex was, lesser species survived the catastrophy to become the dominant species.

              Microsoft and Apple are strongholds that will rise and crumble because they are strongholds, and Android, which builds on the "OMG Linux will never be user friendly because of x, y, z!"-'technologies', somehow became domminant because of what exactly? -> fragmentation, leading to innovation. No matter how crappy, if Motorola and Sony suck, Samsung will make up for it (and vice-versa).

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              • #22
                Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                Thats when you hate the idea developing free software without a catch. Instead of fair play and equal rights for everyone you demand the copyright(CA) or a broad license(CLA) for any contributions. This effectively secures a back orifice to close up code and screw over free software communities. Or for the lulz: Use the copyright to sue GPL-users.
                CLA can be good too. Example, something licensed under the GPL could be relicensed under the LGPL, or something licensed under the GPLv2 could be relicensed under the GPLv3, or something licensed under the 4-clause BSD license could be relicensed under the 3-clause BSD license then the 2-clause BSD license.

                Sure they can stop developing the software as open source and start developing it proprietary, but then the community may still fork it and continue the open source development.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                  Sure they can stop developing the software as open source and start developing it proprietary, but then the community may still fork it and continue the open source development.
                  In this particular case, there are safeguards against closing of Qt. If Trolltech (or anyone else) stops releasing Qt as both GPL 3 and LGPL 2.1, the latest Qt version would become BSD-licensed, which would seriously threaten any competing proprietary version. It would be hard for anybody to justify buying a proprietary Qt license if they can have the BSD code and modify or close it themselves.

                  http://www.kde.org/community/whatisk...foundation.php

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