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  • Features Being Planned For HTML5 GTK+

    Phoronix: Features Being Planned For HTML5 GTK+

    Earlier this week when multi-process support was added to the HTML5 back-end in GTK+, a TODO list was also created that hints at some of the features being looked at for the "Broadway" back-end...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTI2NDM

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    CONGRATZ to the only truly free toolkit outthere which is capable of supporting the linux desktop without antifeatures like CA or CLA. Thank you for being about freedom, linux and the desktop.

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    • #3
      Is there something here Qt doesn't do?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by bulletxt View Post
        Is there something here Qt doesn't do?
        As far as I know, QT does not have a HTML5 backend like GTK+ does. Did not check this though...

        Maybe we should just replace X and Wayland with an HTML5 capable browser... .

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        • #5
          Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
          CONGRATZ to the only truly free toolkit outthere which is capable of supporting the linux desktop without antifeatures like CA or CLA. Thank you for being about freedom, linux and the desktop.
          What is CA and CLA?

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            Cryptography

            I hope the GTK HTML5 browser session supports authentication/login and HTTPS encryption.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by uid313 View Post
              What is CA and CLA?
              Thats when you hate the idea developing free software without a catch. Instead of fair play and equal rights for everyone you demand the copyright(CA) or a broad license(CLA) for any contributions. This effectively secures a back orifice to close up code and screw over free software communities. Or for the lulz: Use the copyright to sue GPL-users.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rexilion View Post
                As far as I know, QT does not have a HTML5 backend like GTK+ does. Did not check this though...

                Maybe we should just replace X and Wayland with an HTML5 capable browser... .
                QtGUI.js can compile a Qt program to HTML5 and Javascript: http://ssj-gz.blogspot.com/2012/12/q...n-liverer.html

                Also, I think it's pretty funny that it doesn't work with Konqueror or rekonq (since with Qupzilla, they are the only open usable Qt browsers I know of).
                Last edited by CTown; 12-30-2012, 03:05 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                  Thats when you hate the idea developing free software without a catch. Instead of fair play and equal rights for everyone you demand the copyright(CA) or a broad license(CLA) for any contributions. This effectively secures a back orifice to close up code and screw over free software communities. Or for the lulz: Use the copyright to sue GPL-users.
                  There is this concept called forking.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                    CONGRATZ to the only truly free toolkit outthere which is capable of supporting the linux desktop without antifeatures like CA or CLA. Thank you for being about freedom, linux and the desktop.
                    The problem with GTK+ is has never been the license, but that its developers are hostile to other free software projects out there. GTK was taken over by people whose chief motivation has always been to kill any competing desktop.

                    This is why QGTKStyle was integrated into Qt and Qt looks nice when run inside a GNOME session. But GTK has never integrated the GTK-Qt engine which does the same for GTK apps running under KDE. 8 years later, GTK still looks like 80s technology if you run KDE.

                    GTK and GNOME have the worst politics in all of Free Software. Although Lennart is really trying to unseat them :P

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                      The problem with GTK+ is has never been the license, but that its developers are hostile to other free software projects out there. GTK was taken over by people whose chief motivation has always been to kill any competing desktop.
                      Right... Then name who and when this take over took place. The current status hasnt changed for a decade or so; GTK is the only truly free option out there. Yeah theming and compability to shitty freetardware built on commercial toolkits (with occational evil takeovers) leave alot to be desired. But so what? If a bunch of idiot are confused enough to buy in to the "assign your freedom/copyright/mom to some random commercial entity" then there is nothing to about that.

                      Qt exists because of the dual license business (screwing over freedom).
                      GTK exists because a free toolkit wih a suitable API and focus on the linux desktop is needed.

                      BTW I suggest you go read LWN, they have a real nice featured article about CA and how stupid it is. And yes suggesting other free software users and developers to go sign such shitty anti-freedom contracts is just RUDE. Whats next? Do you recommend to go buy a device with IOS?

                      Or are you dreaming the "Kubuntu crack pipe dream"of a Qt-future where all Canonical apps are running on top? Let me summarize that for you;

                      Canonical App(CA)
                      Qt(CLA)
                      Whatever kernel(Whatever commercial Qt focuses on)

                      That would be a so-called free software world where everything could be closed source by the command of a few business men. Grow some balls and a spine.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                        There is this concept called forking.
                        Yeah. And that concept is followed by yet a million hours of wasted effort and bitter NIH flames. Forking to correct skewed license policies is really a sad chapter in our history. I guess the only ones laughing are Ballmer and Cook. No the world will just keep spining and the free software ecosystem will get more and more divided by a few companies' eager to fucking the freedom by using CA for commercial reasons.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                          Right... Then name who and when this take over took place. The current status hasnt changed for a decade or so
                          Yes, the change took place when GTK was chosen as the basis for the new "our mission is to kill KDE" desktop.

                          Before that, it was the toolkit developed for the GIMP.

                          And yes suggesting other free software users and developers to go sign such shitty anti-freedom contracts is just RUDE. Whats next? Do you recommend to go buy a device with IOS?
                          I'm not suggesting anything. Qt has always been corporate-developed, but for a really long time now it has been Free Software, as in GPL Free.

                          And around this Free Software toolkit, an excellent Free desktop has developed, which has been innovating until today. If you don't like it, use knock-offs. It's your right
                          Last edited by pingufunkybeat; 12-31-2012, 06:48 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                            Yeah. And that concept is followed by yet a million hours of wasted effort and bitter NIH flames.
                            You say this, yet the GNOME leadership has led the project to the point where it is one of the most forked projects ever. All because of lack of vision and flexibility.

                            Now if you want to run a GTK desktop, you have to pick between GNOME Shell, Unity, Mate, Cinnamon, XFCE, LXDE.

                            A little bit of flexibility would have prevented most of this splintering. All of these were over things that went directly against the wishes of the community.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                              Yes, the change took place when GTK was chosen as the basis for the new "our mission is to kill KDE" desktop.
                              LOL. No one tries to kill KDE. First of all it is doing a great job of killing it self and secondly freedom loving people are busy doing something else than using the Qtrap. What do U expect? Full embracement of Qt, Apple and so on? No thank you.


                              I'm not suggesting anything. Qt has always been corporate-developed, but for a really long time now it has been Free Software, as in GPL Free.
                              ORLY? Will the accept a GPLed patch? Hell no.

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