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    Phoronix: VLC 2.0.5 "Twoflower" Has Experimental Blu-Ray Support

    VideoLAN's VLC was released this weekend with more than 50 fixes and several improved features for this multi-platform open-source media player...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTI1NTQ

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    I switched from VLC to smplayer a few months ago because VLC doesn't support vdpau, and looks like 2.0.5 still doesn't.

    With vdpau CPU usage went from like 50% to like 4%. Technically you can do a custom build of VLC with vdpau support but it doesn't work properly, otherwise it'd ship by default.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by mark45 View Post
      I switched from VLC to smplayer a few months ago because VLC doesn't support vdpau, and looks like 2.0.5 still doesn't.

      With vdpau CPU usage went from like 50% to like 4%. Technically you can do a custom build of VLC with vdpau support but it doesn't work properly, otherwise it'd ship by default.
      In theory it's possible to wrap VA API (which VLC supports) around VDPAU, although the wrapper never worked for me.
      There are some cases when SMPlayer can't play movies via VDPAU and then it always shows a popup that playback failed and that VPDAU won't be used. Personally I found that alone so annoying that SMPlayer can't be my main player.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mark45 View Post
        I switched from VLC to smplayer a few months ago because VLC doesn't support vdpau, and looks like 2.0.5 still doesn't.

        With vdpau CPU usage went from like 50% to like 4%. Technically you can do a custom build of VLC with vdpau support but it doesn't work properly, otherwise it'd ship by default.
        I switched to vlc player because for me it seems to have the best support fo vaapi though VLC + vaapi works flawlessly for me on intel HD4000

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bwat47 View Post
          I switched to vlc player because for me it seems to have the best support fo vaapi though VLC + vaapi works flawlessly for me on intel HD4000
          That's because you're using Intel and I have Nvidia.

          @Awesomeness, that's true, but I'm using the driver 310.14 from a ppa which fixes stuttering of windows and other vdpau fixes (like blue skin in flash) and a ppa version of smplayer which plays fine like 95-99% of the movies, and in the rare case when it's glitchy I switch to VLC which I keep around.

          I like playing 720p and 1080p movies, and boy does smplayer (that is, VDPAU) make a difference in cpu usage, the CPU fan stays quiet and I like it a lot.

          BTW, I heard gstreamer is planning VDPAU support for next Spring, and even if it lands in Fall 2013 it's still a big win for Nvidia users imo.
          Last edited by mark45; 12-18-2012, 03:45 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mark45 View Post
            That's because you're using Intel and I have Nvidia.
            I'm fully aware I'm on intel and you are on nvidia, I was just offering a contrasting experience.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mark45 View Post
              I switched from VLC to smplayer a few months ago because VLC doesn't support vdpau, and looks like 2.0.5 still doesn't.

              With vdpau CPU usage went from like 50% to like 4%. Technically you can do a custom build of VLC with vdpau support but it doesn't work properly, otherwise it'd ship by default.
              Bah! VDPAU -- you might as well suck off steve balmer if you like closed source garbage that much.

              Now the actual interesting parts... are crystalhd - dedicated video decoder hardware with open source drivers, and OpenMAX, which will finally make VLC viable for Android. Previously, Android was limited to the "android" video player for all hardware video decoding. Software video decoding is quite obviously not acceptable for battery powered equipment or virtually ANYTHING over VCD resolutions on an ARM chip.

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              • #8
                I think a very important thing to point out is that the article is a bit misleading. Some of the features listed were ALREADY PRESENT in VLC >= 2.0.

                The parts to look at are those under 2.0.5 ***SPECIFIC***....

                Originally posted by VLC
                2.0.5 specific changes
                2.0.5

                Rework and fixes of the Mac OS X interface
                Fix Pulseaudio initial synchronization
                Fix MKV, SWF, AIFF and subtitles demuxer crashes
                Translations updates and new Welsh translation

                2.0.5

                DVB-S delivery system detection
                Fix audio and video track selection through libVLC
                Fix system sleep issue on Mac OS X 10.5
                In other words... a few minor bug fixes.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                  Bah! VDPAU -- you might as well suck off steve balmer if you like closed source garbage that much.
                  Quite a dirty mouth for someone without any clue.

                  VDPAU is not closed source. The VDPAU library is fully FOSS under a BSD license:
                  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/VDPAU
                  http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~aplattn...u/tree/COPYING

                  Not only that but VDPAU (and not VA API) has a Gallium state tracker which means that all GPUs with a Gallium3D-based driver provide VDPAU acceleration:
                  http://mesa3d.sourceforge.net/sourcetree.html

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mark45 View Post
                    I switched from VLC to smplayer a few months ago because VLC doesn't support vdpau, and looks like 2.0.5 still doesn't.

                    With vdpau CPU usage went from like 50% to like 4%. Technically you can do a custom build of VLC with vdpau support but it doesn't work properly, otherwise it'd ship by default.
                    I believe the way VLC works requires them to read the decoded video back to the CPU so they can perform post-processing, streaming, etc. on it, and VDPAU doesn't allow this.

                    They could add in a mode to VLC which just dumps the video to the screen like most players do, if they wanted to support it, though, at the cost of certain features no longer being present when using VDPAU acceleration.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                      Bah! VDPAU -- you might as well suck off steve balmer if you like closed source garbage that much.
                      No, it's you behaving like an open source jihadist who spoil the idea of open source by being rude fanatics of it. Also, vdpau is as closed as a BSD license.
                      By being such an asshole you discredit yourself and what you're saying. Remember this for your future posts.

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                      • #12
                        I was just offering a contrasting experience.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bwat47 View Post
                          I switched to vlc player because for me it seems to have the best support fo vaapi though VLC + vaapi works flawlessly for me on intel HD4000
                          VLC never worked really well for me with vaapi, I prefer smplayer but there are other alternatives
                          https://www.linuxsystems.it/2012/05/...ideo-decoding/
                          ## VGA ##
                          AMD: X1950XTX, HD3870, HD5870
                          Intel: GMA45, HD3000 (Core i5 2500K)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                            I believe the way VLC works requires them to read the decoded video back to the CPU so they can perform post-processing, streaming, etc. on it, and VDPAU doesn't allow this.
                            Of course it does. No one has implemented it in their software AFAIK, but VDPAU has had the ability since the very beginning.

                            Also, the way VLC does it makes it less efficient (more CPU usage) than players which display the video directly. Ideally, a player would provide both modes - readback to allow software filtering, or direct display for maximum efficiency.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mark45 View Post
                              No, it's you behaving like an open source jihadist who spoil the idea of open source by being rude fanatics of it. Also, vdpau is as closed as a BSD license.
                              By being such an asshole you discredit yourself and what you're saying. Remember this for your future posts.
                              You behave like a slut, mark45. How the fsck is he spoiling idea of opensource? Does GPL'ed Linux spoil idea of opensource? You have no fscking idea, yet you run around and bullsh!t people.

                              Its is BSD who can easily be integrated inside of proprietary blob. BSD is not open, it is free to own! Just look here - http://www.openbsd.org/39.html The BSD idiocracy even portraits Linux full of blobs, but itself staying clean. But tell me, who could be blobbified easier - GPL or BSD? BSD, because its not protected in any way. BSD is so proud of its 3 clauses instead of 5 pages, but its only protection of open that results in such difference. There is no other difference.

                              BSD is anarchy, how long does freedom in anarchy last and who is becomes the ruler? Give me some samples. How much does it last in anarchy till slave handling and bandits appear?

                              Non-GPL and other not-protected licenses are the FUEL for proprietary software. BSD is the fuel for proprietary software.
                              One can make same money without going proprietary. You receive same software, but with different license. You become much more possibilities with your products. What is your problem, that you allow yourself to be bumped and enjoy it?

                              Clearly every license has right to exist, but don't spread the FUD.

                              Be happy with your nvidia card by the way. I have sold mine yesterday and I am going to buy vishera system and radeon.
                              Last edited by crazycheese; 12-19-2012, 07:04 AM.

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