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  • #16
    Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
    Offtopic: I find that when the system is under heavy HDD load I get stutters when listening to music. Yet when the system is under heavy load in windows it never stutters. As if windows gets better buffering. Does anyone else get this behavior? Is there anything I can do to increase the buffers? I use rhythmbox as of now.
    How much heavy load? I had compile run in a VM for 10-15min, doing some find on the entire drive in the host system and music was playing fine all along. I do have indexing turned off, but so do many windows users. Using a fairly old HDD too, though it's a 7200RPM one.

    Quite the opposite, I was able to edit an ID3 tag in Linux without the music pausing when saving the file I was listening to. Winamp always pauses when I do that.

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    • #17
      Works fine for me. Currently it uses 55 MB and does just what is needed - plays music. Also, one more vote for Amarok's search capabilities, I use them to create dynamic playlists filled with music of certain rating, score, play count, genre etc.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
        Yeah, no. VLC doesn't support MIDI at all. As a matter of fact, with VLC you can't even add MIDI files to the playlist. So that's not an option.
        VLC supports MIDI files according to http://wiki.videolan.org/Midi but one needs SoundFont files first.
        Beside that the VLC back-end never had any problems with randomly stopping playpack of MP3 files.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
          VLC supports MIDI files according to http://wiki.videolan.org/Midi but one needs SoundFont files first.
          Beside that the VLC back-end never had any problems with randomly stopping playpack of MP3 files.
          The VLC player does support MIDI, and quite well. However, the VLC backend does not support it. And well, bugs happen, and they get solved, so I just have to wait until everyone switches to GStreamer 1.0.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
            Offtopic: I find that when the system is under heavy HDD load I get stutters when listening to music. Yet when the system is under heavy load in windows it never stutters. As if windows gets better buffering. Does anyone else get this behavior? Is there anything I can do to increase the buffers? I use rhythmbox as of now.
            It's not operating system fault. With xine I didn't ever experience such problems, but this sometimes happens with gstreamer.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by talvik View Post
              Not just music stuttering but the UI becomes quite unresponsive as well. I've experienced this behavior for years in several different machines.

              edit: The pertinent kernel bug https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12309 since 2008 >600 posts.
              Same happens in Windows and BSD as well.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                Then don't use GStreamer. ;-)
                Amarok, just as almost any other KDE media player, simply talks to Phonon. Simply switch the Phonon back-end (in my case VLC).
                TRANSLATION: "It is here! We made a true savage beast with a horrible UI, of course we did the coding in such a untalented way that it eats all your ressources and is destined to crash. But we added a nice "feature" for you guys suffering from pathological KDe configurism. Go change the backend at will! Due to our complete lack of competence we decided to not to embrace any audio/video framewok so now it is up to you to flip flop between a variety of buggy half assed solutions. And yeah the million bugs you will encounter dont matter shit to us. Add em to our bugzilla so we can laugh at you. And yes the >350mb RSS is all for the lulz."

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                  But we added a nice "feature" for you guys suffering from pathological KDe configurism. Go change the backend at will! Due to our complete lack of competence we decided to not to embrace any audio/video framewok so now it is up to you to flip flop between a variety of buggy half assed solutions.
                  Yeah, how dare the KDE developers try to maintain binary compatibility. They should just do what everyone else does and break it randomly and without warning.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by TheBlackCat View Post
                    Yeah, how dare the KDE developers try to maintain binary compatibility. They should just do what everyone else does and break it randomly and without warning.
                    You are maliciously misrepresenting FunkSTAR's position! That's not cool!

                    What he is saying is that they should do exactly what the GNOME people and RedHat are doing, whatever that happens to be at any given point. It is right by definition and cannot possibly be wrong, since everyone who disagree is obviously stupid

                    FWIW, I like Amarok, I didn't mind v2, but I've recently switched to Clementine, which is also great.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by TheBlackCat View Post
                      Yeah, how dare the KDE developers try to maintain binary compatibility. They should just do what everyone else does and break it randomly and without warning.
                      Actually, one of the reasons why distributions don't have VLC set as the default backend is patent issues. Another is that GStreamer is modular and that it supports more than VLC does, if you enable its full capabilities.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
                        Another is that GStreamer is modular
                        vlc is modular, too! The difference is, that vlc ships all modules within one package, gstreamer scatters them to many different packages (leaving it to the user to find out which ones are compatible...)

                        I also dislike amarok since quite some time, but used it nevertheless - until to the point where several things broke for me (partly phonon-backend related, partly their own bugs). Since then I'm using be::mpc, which serves all my needs.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                          What he is saying is that they should do exactly what the GNOME people and RedHat are doing, whatever that happens to be at any given point.
                          LOL that is really funny. your only defence is to go all hyperbole and attack others Your need to bring unrelated companies and DEs is just pathetic. How about you just go fire up your bloated Amarok 4.0 devel running straight of a 4096 core mainframe. Sure it might need 16GB RSS but you will get any possible abstrated layers to keep binary compability to ANY SHIT EVER PULLED OUT OF ANYONES ASS. WOW thats so uberkool because you can waste 1000 hours in the basement and become a power audio framework configurism guru! Im sure it will pay all the billsand get you all the girls having the will and power to configure a compability layer for MIDI ala win3.11.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by schmalzler View Post
                            vlc is modular, too! The difference is, that vlc ships all modules within one package, gstreamer scatters them to many different packages (leaving it to the user to find out which ones are compatible...)

                            I also dislike amarok since quite some time, but used it nevertheless - until to the point where several things broke for me (partly phonon-backend related, partly their own bugs). Since then I'm using be::mpc, which serves all my needs.
                            So you turned down a framework due to (solvable) packaging problems and after an unfortunate experince in Infinite-Bugland-of-crappy-Abstrations you ended yet another remake. No surprise, really.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                              LOL that is really funny. your only defence is to go all hyperbole and attack others Your need to bring unrelated companies and DEs is just pathetic. How about you just go fire up your bloated Amarok 4.0 devel running straight of a 4096 core mainframe. Sure it might need 16GB RSS but you will get any possible abstrated layers to keep binary compability to ANY SHIT EVER PULLED OUT OF ANYONES ASS. WOW thats so uberkool because you can waste 1000 hours in the basement and become a power audio framework configurism guru! Im sure it will pay all the billsand get you all the girls having the will and power to configure a compability layer for MIDI ala win3.11.
                              Actually, I use KDE because it works, works the way I like it, and works better than the competition.

                              You're just frustrated because the software YOU use does not let you do the things you want. Instead of switching, you want everybody to be stuck to a feature-less monopoly just so you don't feel inferior.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                                Actually, I use KDE because it works, works the way I like it, and works better than the competition.

                                You're just frustrated because the software YOU use does not let you do the things you want. Instead of switching, you want everybody to be stuck to a feature-less monopoly just so you don't feel inferior.
                                LOL you are funny. As someone already stated during the first post; Amarok is such a piece of shit. Draing the CPU while eating RAM and exposing kernel I/O bugs.

                                AMAROK IS NOONES COMPETItItION BUT EVERYONES LAUGH. I really hope the decreasing number of contributors have the moral to continue to the walk down boulevard of FAIL. Each new release brings more funny shit. And my audio player? It works fine, no need for abstration layers or oversized computers.

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