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  • #11
    Originally posted by kUrb1a View Post
    Systemd is not a bad technology far from it but if you wish bigger picture what it brings
    So what does a userland vs kernelland fight bring to the table? Nothing. This is about mutual exclusive init systems where one is a complete whack crack piece of deadware and the other is not.

    Upstart is a piece of old dung that needs to go away. systemd is the messenger.

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    • #12
      You have to understand this:
      Upstart is modern, it works and it is well tested (does Systemd have a decent test suite now?).
      Ubuntu does not need to switch to Systemd right now.

      I do agree that having one standard init system everywhere would be great for many reasons. And Canonical would probably be happy to spend man power somewhere else than Upstart.
      I think they may reconsider this after 14.04.

      But such a change is not trivial. Especially with such a fast moving target as Systemd.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by bwat47 View Post
        until after the next lts before making such a big change?
        Hopefully. systemd is much more user friendly and it's much easier to configure. It's also much more powerful, so I hope they'll switch.

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        • #14
          All your base are belong to us. We will assimilate you, no matter who was first or who is better.

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          • #15
            Go! Upstart! go!

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Malizor View Post
              (does Systemd have a decent test suite now?).
              Oh the joy. Refering to Shuttleworths FUD is allways fun. Oh wait it is not. Because it is debunked. Go debunk yourself.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                No point in having 10000 projects doing the same thing.
                Having 10000 projects doing the same thing is the hallmark of the past 20 years of *nix development. NIH syndrome is practically a requirement.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by LightBit View Post
                  Go! Upstart! go!
                  Thats right cheerleader LightBit. Givem some luv and support. They sure do need it since Upstart is pretty dead.

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                  • #19
                    systemd is the pulseaudio of init systems. no thank you.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by johnc View Post
                      systemd is the pulseaudio of init systems. no thank you.
                      Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil...

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