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  • #11
    It is extremely annoying to not have flash on my mobile browser, extremely. It basically blocks you from seeing a huge amount of videos and content.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by ChrisXY View Post
      I'd estimate 99% of my flash usage is watching videos.

      The sad thing is, that adobe themselves did say that the flash plugin is not for solving the problem of playing videos.
      https://blogs.adobe.com/penguinswf/2..._problems.html

      They still don't seem to realize that (my estimation 95% of users only ever want to watch flash videos with it. They should have made a "flashplugin light" that was only capable of video playback and solving that problem efficiently.
      That would have the advantage of making the flash advertisement garbage go away. Without ads this phoronix article makes chromium consume about 0% CPU on my 3632qm, with flash ads, chromium consumes accumulated about 10 to 20% CPU (of one core). I wonder how much energy humanity could have saved not having flash ads. I mean, not even not clogging the bandwidth with ads, just the client pcs not displaying them.
      Not only do the ads waste energy and bandwidth compared to text ads, they also most often destroy or compromise the layout and are just plain ugly.

      I mean, what the fuck.


      So I would like a flash player that only is capable of playing flash content.

      Maybe the approach of Shumway is modular enough so that you can restrict the code loading to that code that plays videos.
      I wonder... phoronix is on my whitelist for adblock, so the ads are downloaded and I can see the links in form of an arrow because flashblock won't run them. Does that count for phoronix still as ad viewed or do they not get any money for it?

      Sometimes I even run GNU JavaScript blocker, because most websites are just annoying with all the poppy flashy stuff.

      So, what is all the fuss about flash? It is utterly useless and websites, that use it, have mostly rather no content at all. Youtube still runs the html5 beta for their videos and I would say ~70% are presented in a non-flash player to me.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by RealNC View Post
        I hope you guys know that pr0n is responsible for killing several formats, right? If something's not compatible with porn, it's not going to succeed, even if it's 10 times better than a porn-compatible format. Good examples are Beta vs VHS and HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray.
        I'd like to see RMS give a speech at the AVN awards or something.


        @elanthis

        Good to know. Thanks.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by disi View Post
          I wonder... phoronix is on my whitelist for adblock, so the ads are downloaded and I can see the links in form of an arrow because flashblock won't run them.
          Youtube still runs the html5 beta for their videos and I would say ~70% are presented in a non-flash player to me.
          Don't they give money for clicks on the advertisements only?

          And their HTML5 beta got broken after the last UI change. Not sure if they fixed it yet.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
            Don't they give money for clicks on the advertisements only?

            And their HTML5 beta got broken after the last UI change. Not sure if they fixed it yet.
            If you mean the white layout (not widely available yet i think) it was broken but it got fixed. The problem is monetized videos that don't show up in the main site but work fine when embedded on other sites etc. Fucking stupid.

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            • #16
              YAY!!! Lets write video decoders in an interpreted programming language (javascript) :-P

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              • #17
                Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                If you mean the white layout (not widely available yet i think) it was broken but it got fixed.
                Ah, good to know. And I thought it was available for all registered users, or was I selected to be a part of the beta by chance?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                  Is it porno-compatible?

                  My only use for Flash is porno.
                  Theres a little know site called https://thepiratebay.se/ where you can find all the porn on earth for free and you don't need Flash installed to access it.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Kivada View Post
                    Theres a little know site called https://thepiratebay.se/ where you can find all the porn on earth for free and you don't need Flash installed to access it.
                    I know, but then you have to download it and can't stream it.
                    Also, torrents often only work good for recently released stuff.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                      I know, but then you have to download it and can't stream it.
                      Also, torrents often only work good for recently released stuff.
                      Yeah, but unlike the streaming sites you can actually see what is going into where from the torrents as they come in at 1080p now instead of the 340p rez on the flash streamers.

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