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  • It's Time To Test Out GNOME 3.6

    Phoronix: It's Time To Test Out GNOME 3.6

    Fedora is running a GNOME test-day today to help sort out any remaining GNOME 3.6 desktop issues and they have kindly requested your help...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTIyNDE

  • #2
    *stomps with feed* I want a friggin .deb based distribution with Gnome...not some stinky rpm trash.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Detructor View Post
      *stomps with feed* I want a friggin .deb based distribution with Gnome...not some stinky rpm trash.
      Well, there is the official Ubuntu Gnome spin:
      https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10

      It's a pretty raw Gnome experience, so it doesn't feel like an Ubuntu "experience" at install. For example, there is no Software Center, Firefox, or Ubuntu One installed by default. Instead you get Epiphany, Packagekit Gnome, etc. installed by default. If you want the standard Ubuntu application set, they're in the repos of course.

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      • #4
        Cannot, we have a night out today...

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        • #5
          It's time for a new reader survey

          How much do you hate Gnome 3x:

          1. A whole bunch

          2. More than you will ever know

          3. So mad, I put out my own eyes with a pencil

          4. click

          5. click

          6. click

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
            7. Gnome 3.x should be among the most deadly diseases along with CVD and cancer.
            may i ask why? i very like the concept of he gnome shell. though i admit gnoe 3.6 (in my case) has major performance issues, lags and performance regressions in a lot of situations... but i still enjoy the de conept it has.

            i always hated the start/pplication menu like windows has it, gnome2 or kde or more or less every other de had it till now.
            the gnome shell conept is in my opinon the most user friendly and efficient way. but it is a very unfinished conept. there are still a lot of design flaws.

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            • #7
              The other day I got bored so I installed UbuntuGNOME on that silly Samsung 700t tablet of mine. I dare say that GNOME Shell is a pretty decent touchscreen UI. Unlike Unity, GS has almost no reliance on right-click, which a rather important thing in the land of tablets. Everything just seemed to work, uh, right. I dunno whether this was an intentional design choice, but, there it is.

              Alas, it won't run on the Ubuntu build for the Nexus 7. Mutter won't work with the device's GPU, so the fallback desktop loads instead. Sad.

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              • #8
                I want a friggin .deb based distribution with Gnome
                Last edited by jumperdono; 11-09-2012, 03:14 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jumperdono View Post
                  I want a friggin .deb based distribution with Gnome
                  Why did you just in this topic then?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
                    Yeah it's better. Not being able to switch between applications in one click in a taskbar. Real fucking progress. Now you have to go to a corner and then recognize your application from the list and click again. Fuck gnome shell.
                    Or you could just hit alt-tab...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by AdamW View Post
                      Or you could just hit alt-tab...
                      That's what i do but that's not an excuse for a clear regression for mouse users.
                      Android has an interesting flowchart which is supposed to help developers make good UI/UX decisions.

                      developer.android.com/design/media/settings_flowchart.png

                      Especially consider 3-yes, fixed behaviors causing harm to the "minority".
                      So, design for the 80%, but don't alienate the rest.
                      UI is really hard.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by liam View Post
                        That's what i do but that's not an excuse for a clear regression for mouse users.
                        Android has an interesting flowchart which is supposed to help developers make good UI/UX decisions.

                        developer.android.com/design/media/settings_flowchart.png

                        Especially consider 3-yes, fixed behaviors causing harm to the "minority".
                        So, design for the 80%, but don't alienate the rest.
                        UI is really hard.
                        As I understand it, the GNOME team's approach is that you can make an interface that's efficient, or one that's discoverable, but it's very difficult to do both. So their basic concept is that they kind of have two interfaces: the touch/mouse workflow is discoverable but not efficient, and the keyboard workflow is efficient but not discoverable. You can pick either (or, of course, combine elements of the two). As you say, UI is really hard, and much easier to criticize than it is to do.

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                        • #13
                          1984

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8

                          It's 1984 all over again... walled gardens ... w a l l e d g a r d e n s............

                          1 being 1 resolve 1 click .... we shall B A I L!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by liam View Post
                            That's what i do but that's not an excuse for a clear regression for mouse users.
                            Is it really? I find that sweeping the mouse up the left corner and then clicking a big window is at least as fast as trying to pinpoint a tiny area in the bottom of the screen. Sure, there is an extra movement (not click), but now there is no need for precision. "Point and click" has become "Flick and click", and feels totally natural for me.

                            So much in fact, that I get annoyed in Windows 7 where the aforementioned technique does not work
                            Last edited by kigurai; 11-18-2012, 08:54 AM. Reason: Where did all those extra words come from?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by benmoran View Post
                              Well, there is the official Ubuntu Gnome spin:
                              https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10

                              It's a pretty raw Gnome experience, so it doesn't feel like an Ubuntu "experience" at install. For example, there is no Software Center, Firefox, or Ubuntu One installed by default. Instead you get Epiphany, Packagekit Gnome, etc. installed by default. If you want the standard Ubuntu application set, they're in the repos of course.
                              oh...thanks

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