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  • #46
    twm should be installed on every system. It is a nice, clean, simple fallback in case anything goes so wrong you can't start your normal environment. It is simple, runs if X runs and you won't feel cozy. Perfect.

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    • #47
      This is a stupid comparison, his boot times seem way off for gnome, kde, and unity. And I think his memory comparisons are also including cached memory, which is a pointless comparison.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
        Sorry, but LXDE website is dead, its session manager is broken and many ways of performing basic tasks are counterintuitive.
        XFCE uses just 40MiB more and does all that better, with all major still existing issues being around Thunar, but not the DE.
        Multiple components of xfce just don't seem to be maintained at all (such as the volume mixer), so I don't really think xfce is necessarily in much better "condition" than lxde. And afiak, lxde's website has always had issues, I believe its still an active project. I've also never had any issues with lxdm. I've never really used lxde, but when I used XFCE on arch I used lxdm as my display manager and it seemed nice.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by RealNC View Post
          Wow. Ubuntu really sucks that much? After login into KDE, memory usage on my system is 290MB. What on earth is Ubuntu wasting the additional 1GB memory on?
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
            The LXDE website is not dead (I suggest you check it again); the last new blog post was on September 24th.
            Yes, its up, very nice! Thanks for info. Because it was only to be found on google cache just two months ago.

            Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
            The session manager is not broken from my experience, and everything else is just personal opinion.
            Thats not a "personal opinion" if you can't save sessions (and autorestore them).
            Thats about the one of two single issues I had with LXDE and the critical one, because it prevents usage for a newbie user on one of the linux machines I had to assemble.

            Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
            PCManFM is definitely much better than Thunar at the moment.
            I would call draw, because you can't get properties of multiple selected objects in Thunar, and Thunar itself seems to use single multex or similar - meaning if copying large files over NFS it would freeze all instances including desktop, due to Linux large mempage defrag bug.
            On LXDE list of "features" you get very awkward method for adding a link to desktop without ability to drag-n-drop(medium) or editing its main menu(minor).

            Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
            I was just commenting about how I was using bugger all memory, but anyway...
            And considering the accuracy of some of your posts here, I do not think I am going to worry about it.
            Sorry, I am not an engineer. The test was done on P4 class machine with 512MiB of RAM with 6200 IGP(if I remember correctly, noveau ofc) under Lubuntu and Xubuntu 32bit correspondingly.
            In one of the screenshots here there is XFCE doing 206MiB on Fedora, so if its 64bit system that would match my results precisely.

            Regarding browsers, I opened phoronix.com and google in chromium and firefox (13?) and let it stay for 3 hours. After an hour chromium has forced paging to happen by going beyond 400MiB memory usage for unknown reasons. I was unable to find any solution to limit its memory caching appetite and decided it were simply memleaks similar to Firefox 2.0 era.
            Last edited by crazycheese; 10-10-2012, 07:27 PM.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
              Hahaha look how shitty gnome shell and unity are. I feel sorry for all the users who drank the kool-aid.
              Why do you feel sorry for me? It works great for me, and it boots pretty much instantly on my modern SSD-backed system. compiz is also using only 100mb out of my 8gb... pretty acceptable.

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              • #52
                Hmm, strange results. And as he said the test isn't a real one.
                I actually use twm (though it is nearly no use... haha) but it is really small and loads fast. I also use KDE 4 and it doesn't suck so much mem. Also depends on how you compiled things. I'd have to check again but I had really litte memory usage on my fbackup fileserver without X, I ran KDE 3 and 4 on my now dead 512 M RAM laptop and it was actually working. Also had Gnome 2 there which also was running fine.
                Admitted I was always using Gentoo. And not pulling in things I do not consider as good or useful (like all that semantic desktop searching and indexing KDE offers). Compiling things with -Os also seems to help, I did this for my smaller machines.

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                • #53
                  I feel sorry for all the users who drank the kool-aid.

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                  • #54
                    anybody?come on baby!


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