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  • #31
    Originally posted by RealNC View Post
    Wow. Ubuntu really sucks that much? After login into KDE, memory usage on my system is 290MB. What on earth is Ubuntu wasting the additional 1GB memory on?
    Haha, one could ask what are you wasting 256mb on

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    • #32
      Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
      Wow. KDEs million crasher bugs doesnt come for free. In order to be so buggy they need to be a ressource hog as well. But is a nice feature it is so slow starting. This is to save battery because it is burning battery power when "idle".

      Stopping KDE is halfway stopping global warming.
      Seriously?!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by curaga View Post
        Haha, one could ask what are you wasting 256mb on
        Caches don't count in these tests. Thus usage truly is usage. The waste goes into play when you calculate total memory-(usage+caches), but that's another issue entirely.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
          Caches don't count in these tests. Thus usage truly is usage. The waste goes into play when you calculate total memory-(usage+caches), but that's another issue entirely.
          ?

          It is a waste to spend several hundred megs on non-cache things too...

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          • #35
            it is waste to not use RAM that is available

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            • #36
              Hawing water in tap and not drinking it all is also waste?

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              • #37
                depending on the region where you live you can't waste (cold) water, yes. I for one live in a region with many rain and luckily there is this process called "hydrologic cycle". If you need water, take it. This does not count for hot water, because you can waste energy easily ;-)

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                • #38
                  So, I live in a region when free RAM is now waste, because when I run IDE with FF, then I need more free RAM for them.

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                  • #39
                    if the RAM is used by FF or an IDE it is not free ;-) I meant using _otherwise_ free RAM to speed things up is a good thing. When there is a high pressure on RAM you can easily free RAM that was only used to speed up things (caching, preloading, preallocated ram, ...). But free unused RAM doesn't help anybody.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by halfmanhalfamazing View Post
                      Yeah, see your Fedora XFCE memory usage is only 200+ MB. The Ubuntu memory usage in the shootout is over 900MB.

                      Crazy.
                      Yeah, at the moment I have Chromium open with 15 tabs open, Desurium open in my tray, LibreOffice displaying an ODT on my second screen, and two instances of Thunar and I am only using 811 mb.

                      Might be a difference in how lxtask gets it's information though.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                        Once again LXDE is forgotten about, which annoys me considering its pretty much the only TRUE lightweight DE that is still actively maintained.
                        Sorry, but LXDE website is dead, its session manager is broken and many ways of performing basic tasks are counterintuitive.
                        XFCE uses just 40MiB more and does all that better, with all major still existing issues being around Thunar, but not the DE.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
                          Yeah, at the moment I have Chromium open with 15 tabs open, Desurium open in my tray, LibreOffice displaying an ODT on my second screen, and two instances of Thunar and I am only using 811 mb.

                          Might be a difference in how lxtask gets it's information though.
                          Chromium has a lot of memory leaks. Consider using Firefox instead. 500MiB vs 120MiB.

                          Originally posted by halfmanhalfamazing View Post
                          Yeah, see your Fedora XFCE memory usage is only 200+ MB. The Ubuntu memory usage in the shootout is over 900MB.

                          Crazy.
                          On Xubuntu with XFCE 4.8 the system used 160MiB.. Price for new features in 4.10?...

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                          • #43
                            i vote for xfce, although i dont use it

                            too all the nitpicks: the man clearly stated that its a subjective benchmark

                            on the other hand, the end user is almost always subjective
                            even more then some1 who can read the current memory usage


                            PS i remember Debian with xfce using 60mb, but lately my rig (openbox/fluxbox) is over 75mb at start
                            still its a lot better then default Ubuntu

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
                              Sorry, but LXDE website is dead, its session manager is broken and many ways of performing basic tasks are counterintuitive.
                              XFCE uses just 40MiB more and does all that better, with all major still existing issues being around Thunar, but not the DE.
                              The LXDE website is not dead (I suggest you check it again); the last new blog post was on September 24th.

                              The session manager is not broken from my experience, and everything else is just personal opinion. PCManFM is definitely much better than Thunar at the moment.

                              I like Xfce and use it as my primary, but I also like LXDE and see that it can be better in several other use cases.

                              Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
                              Chromium has a lot of memory leaks. Consider using Firefox instead. 500MiB vs 120MiB.
                              I was just commenting about how I was using bugger all memory, but anyway...

                              And considering the accuracy of some of your posts here, I do not think I am going to worry about it.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by bug77 View Post
                                1. a first run is hardly a relevant metric
                                Depends on whether some self-adjusting preloading mechanism is used or not.

                                OTOH, running multiple tests and throwing away the outliers is always a good practice...

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