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    Phoronix: Enlightenment E17 Is Another Step Closer To Release

    Are you looking forward to the official -- and long-awaited -- release of Enlightenment's E17 in the near future?..

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTE4MjM

  • #2
    Wasn't E16 released just a couple of years ago?

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    • #3
      the LinuxCon event is not in Prague but in Barcelona...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by disi View Post
        Wasn't E16 released just a couple of years ago?
        not, it was released far before.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by vtorri View Post
          not, it was released far before.
          That was supposed to be funny, because it looks like Elightenment has a release once a decade or so.... apart from that I used E17 before and its perfect for mobile devices etc.

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          • #6
            I've been using E17 since 2007. It has been rewritten at least once since then, but it's been quite stable for all those years - more than LXDE or KDE4 I would say. The main peeve I used to have with it was - in case of power outage, the config folder used to get pretty broken, so I kept a backup of "the configuration" just in case...

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            • #7
              e17 suffers from KDEsitis, big fat badly drawn icons all over the place, text and icons badly coppled together

              ultra complex, confusing, configuration windows

              looks like it was made by a 7 year old with crayons, crude and amateurish

              the only good thing is that it's really fast and snappy, I gather the fastest one I've tried


              but here's what a lightweight desktop should look like, clean, consice, simple and professional

              http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Yfa-O3ublQ...buntu12.10.png

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              • #8
                Don't blame the devs if you can't configure it. There's always the clearlooks theme for E, if you want something much less bling.

                http://exchange.enlightenment.org/fi...screenshot.png

                And there's many others...

                http://exchange.enlightenment.org/themeGroup/show/1674

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pallidus View Post
                  e17 suffers from KDEsitis, big fat badly drawn icons all over the place, text and icons badly coppled together

                  ultra complex, confusing, configuration windows

                  looks like it was made by a 7 year old with crayons, crude and amateurish

                  the only good thing is that it's really fast and snappy, I gather the fastest one I've tried


                  but here's what a lightweight desktop should look like, clean, consice, simple and professional

                  http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Yfa-O3ublQ...buntu12.10.png
                  While i'll agree that the default theme and icons scratches my retina the UI/UX is far more logical than other DEs. The theme and icons can be fixed.

                  On the configuration settings there are a few things that can be made better IMO ie. better grouping more thoughtful placement of the buttons and selections and maybe make the windows that pop up modal.

                  I also thing it needs more native apps ie NetworkManager, a proper desktop music player (xmms2 based maybe??), a desktop manager (is elsa alive???) , a text editor etc. There have been project but don't think any is still alive.
                  Last edited by 89c51; 09-12-2012, 06:51 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                    I also thing it needs more native apps ie NetworkManager, a proper desktop music player (xmms2 based maybe??), a desktop manager (is elsa alive???) , a text editor etc. There have been project but don't think any is still alive.
                    there is a connman module, iirc

                    desktop music player : 'enjoy', but we can do better, i think. 'Enjoy' has several bugs.

                    'elsa' has been renamed as 'entrance' (like the old session manager) and it is still alive

                    text editor : there is one which is currently underdevelopment, but we are lacking manpower. The dev is also a core dev, so he has not a lot of time.

                    i'm myself working on a multi doc viewer ala okular. It's alive too

                    there is also a new game : http://brunodilly.org/blog/escape-from-booty-bay/ which is more a proof of concept for the EFL and games

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by vtorri View Post
                      there is a connman module, iirc
                      Yes i know but the "standard" on the average Linux distro is network manager. I don't think there are any distros that use conman out of the box.

                      Originally posted by vtorri View Post
                      desktop music player : 'enjoy', but we can do better, i think. 'Enjoy' has several bugs.

                      'elsa' has been renamed as 'entrance' (like the old session manager) and it is still alive

                      text editor : there is one which is currently underdevelopment, but we are lacking manpower. The dev is also a core dev, so he has not a lot of time.

                      i'm myself working on a multi doc viewer ala okular. It's alive too

                      there is also a new game : http://brunodilly.org/blog/escape-from-booty-bay/ which is more a proof of concept for the EFL and games
                      Probably the app situation will change once e17 is released. I hope at least.

                      Oh BTW how is the systemd integration??
                      Last edited by 89c51; 09-12-2012, 08:44 AM.

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                      • #12
                        there have been some discussions about systemd in the development mailing list. Nothing more yet

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                        • #13
                          https://e17releasemanager.wordpress....2/corrections/

                          For corrections to what's written on this site.

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                          • #14
                            89 you can't theme bad aesthetics.

                            While I admit that e17 is unbelievably fast and snappy even compared to fluxbox/openbox, looking at it it's like getting aids in the eyes.

                            Must have been designed by americans since everything is big and fat, from the windows borders to the buttons.

                            let's pick a random theme:

                            http://e17-stuff.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/147503-1.jpg

                            it's the fonts, the icons, the windows, porca miseria it all looks like a pile of crap

                            random openbox theme

                            http://box-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/96022-1.jpg

                            my point = made.

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                            • #15
                              You should probably look at the E17 provided themes (the ones in the THEME directory on svn).
                              Not sure I get your point though - are you saying that your impression of an entire desktop shell is given by completely random themes off the net?
                              If you're really not sure of what E17 is capable of, do check out the the svn stuff.

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