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  • GIMP Looks Towards GEGL, High Bit Depths, GTK3

    Phoronix: GIMP Looks Towards GEGL, High Bit Depths, GTK3

    Back in May was the long-awaited release of GIMP 2.8, and while this release was great and packed in many new features, there's still more to look forward to in the future of this open-source imaging program...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTE4MTc

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    There's a change about GIMP 2.8 that I really dislike. I haven't looked yet at the options, maybe this behaviour is changeable, but it's really bothersome that saving now defaults to the GIMP format instead of the 'export' format. You have a extra option in the file menu of quickly reexporting to the latest JPG or whichever format you used, but Ctrl+s is still mapped to the original save function, which saves, as said, in the internal format.

    For me, when I quickly edit a lot of files, it's a pain now to work with.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by susikala View Post
      There's a change about GIMP 2.8 that I really dislike. I haven't looked yet at the options, maybe this behaviour is changeable, but it's really bothersome that saving now defaults to the GIMP format instead of the 'export' format. You have a extra option in the file menu of quickly reexporting to the latest JPG or whichever format you used, but Ctrl+s is still mapped to the original save function, which saves, as said, in the internal format.

      For me, when I quickly edit a lot of files, it's a pain now to work with.
      the logic is explained here. basically save should always be lossless (with respect to things like layers), anything else is an export.
      http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Save_%..._specification

      if you want to make quick edits to non gimp files, then use ctrl+E. beware that if you are doing this with a format like jpeg then you will loose quality on each edit.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by susikala View Post
        There's a change about GIMP 2.8 that I really dislike. I haven't looked yet at the options, maybe this behaviour is changeable, but it's really bothersome that saving now defaults to the GIMP format instead of the 'export' format. You have a extra option in the file menu of quickly reexporting to the latest JPG or whichever format you used, but Ctrl+s is still mapped to the original save function, which saves, as said, in the internal format.

        For me, when I quickly edit a lot of files, it's a pain now to work with.
        Almost everybody hates that change and yet I do all my more extensive work in GIMP and I got used to it very fast .

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        • #5
          Originally posted by susikala View Post
          There's a change about GIMP 2.8 that I really dislike. I haven't looked yet at the options, maybe this behaviour is changeable, but it's really bothersome that saving now defaults to the GIMP format instead of the 'export' format. You have a extra option in the file menu of quickly reexporting to the latest JPG or whichever format you used, but Ctrl+s is still mapped to the original save function, which saves, as said, in the internal format.

          For me, when I quickly edit a lot of files, it's a pain now to work with.
          It was also a bit of a shock for me, but after a while I got used to it. The reason for that change in save behavior seems to be to prevent people from loosing the original image when opening a raster image and doing some edits to it. In one of the development options that extra file menu entry wasn't even present so it was even harder. I think this is how photoshop works as well, but I haven't used it in a while so it can be just my imagination.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by devius View Post
            The reason for that change in save behavior seems to be to prevent people from loosing the original image when opening a raster image and doing some edits to it.
            "Save a Copy" also forces gimp format now too. Not a fan.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by devius View Post
              The reason for that change in save behavior seems to be to prevent people from loosing the original image when opening a raster image and doing some edits to it.
              How would that be so? Unless the original image was also the same format as the output.

              I use GIMP infrequently and this change bites me each time. If I used it more frequently, I'm sure I'd quickly adapt to to. It's just enough pain that I remark to myself "you know, I'm not really doing anything fancy that needs GIMP, I'll just go do this with command line tools." And that makes one fewer person who cares about the future of GIMP. Which in the 'mindshare is important to survival' world of OSS, is considered 'doing it wrong.'

              On a positive note, please, oh, please, support higher bit depths. Cinepaint is nice, but the full GIMP tools suite would be much nicer. This is the other thing that bites me when I use GIMP. I usually have some 16 bit grayscale or 48 bit color scans to manipulate and the first thing GIMP says to me is "Sorry, I don't know what to do with those lower 8 bits, so I'm just going to dump them on the floor, I hope you don't mind." Then I can't even save the edits I make....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by susikala View Post
                There's a change about GIMP 2.8 that I really dislike. I haven't looked yet at the options, maybe this behaviour is changeable, but it's really bothersome that saving now defaults to the GIMP format instead of the 'export' format.
                If you've put the time you spent writing your post on googling, you had the solution already: http://shallowsky.com/blog/gimp/gimp...ort-clean.html
                Now install the plugin and STFU. You're welcome.

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                • #9
                  gtk3 is already there

                  What are you talking about Michael?

                  There has been a gtk3 branch in git for a year, making GIMP quite an early adopter....

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                  • #10
                    gtk3 is already there

                    What are you talking about Michael?

                    There has been a gtk3 branch in git for a year, making GIMP quite an early adopter....

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Article
                      (There does exist a GIMP GTK3 branch, but not that's been merged to mainline.)
                      Either Michael made a stealth update, or you might have missed that bit.

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                      • #12
                        Out of curiosity how good is GTK3 support for Win and Mac OS X? ie. Does GIMP runs flawlessly on those two OSes?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                          Out of curiosity how good is GTK3 support for Win and Mac OS X? ie. Does GIMP runs flawlessly on those two OSes?
                          On Mac OS it uses X11 so it's a bit of an alien program living in its own little X11 world. It works, but could be better. Last time I checked there was a native Mac port that doesn't require X11 but it's for Mountain Lion (10.8) only.

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                          • #14
                            I for one really appreciate the single window mode, even if I have not had the opportunity to use it much since I am still on Fedora 16 and Gimp 2.8 only started to ship with Fedora 17. And it is not for Photoshop nostalgia, as I have never used it, but rather for the fact it simplifies the interface. Because of this I am glad they kept the traditional multi-window mode as well though, for those that need the additional options.

                            And I can understand the reasons behind the save and export change. One of my brothers is a big multimedia guy, and you should hear him complain about losing quality during edits, especially with audio and video software. I am pretty sure he will appreciate the change in the Gimp when I inform him about it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Veerappan View Post
                              Either Michael made a stealth update, or you might have missed that bit.
                              It's quite comical that the GIMP software isn't the first to use the newest version of the GIMP ToolKit.

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