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Wow! Did not take long for the abused and angry Gnome Zealot Defenders / Apologizers to jump right in and start whining! I have tried every major version of Gnome 3 and I just do not "get it" for desktop operation. Now interface wise for a tablet I can see it being ok. Thing is, it may be a little heavy for tablets. KDE is trying hard to "get it's mojo" back, but that too is an uphill battle. XFCE is a genuinely good alternative mid-road solution for a lot of use cases.
I really wish the Gnome haters and the Gnome Whiners would give it a break already! If you like Gnome3 GREAT !!!!!!! USE IT!!!!! .... If you do not care for it, Use Something Else! Personally I do not really care for Gnome3 all that much. Do not really care for Unity either (desktop usage!). XFCE 4.10 has made some solid progress and these days works reasonably well for general desktop usage. There are those of us who still care for *GENERAL* DESKTOP* USAGE* !!!! .... you know...mouse ... keyboard.... monitor...tower ...and 2 browsers open, OOO open for writer and Calc, a terminal open, Xchat open, and some solitaire open just for grins....
All this Gnome3 hatred from both sides... can't we all just get along?
Last time I tried XFCE, it offered the worst customization of any DE I've tried, however, that was maybe 3 years ago, so I'm sure it has significantly improved since. I am interested in trying XFCE again, although I don't see it likely replacing my LXDE and KDE setups.
Xfce has really improved in that time. However, to be fair, so has LXDE.
I really wish the Gnome haters and the Gnome Whiners would give it a break already
The reason is the inaccurate articles. Phoronix should start reporting more accurately and stop with the bashing. And with reporting I mean do actual research and ask questions. At the moment this site is like Fox News.
Even this article, people partly involved in Debian are responding on their own to the most recent inaccurate article and saying e.g. "It was changed in the git but it wasn't actually released yet. Several GNOME packages have already been rebuilt with xz compression to make the binaries small enough to fit on the CD.", followed by "Switching the default desktop would be controversial and there's a lot of inertia behind GNOME.".
Seems to be someone is using a big stick over the heads of the Debian GNOME packagers to ensure they fix the issues asap.
I prefer dvd iso with larger packages and haven't used CDs for several years. My network connection is poor. It's extremely slow to install extra packages,codecs,updates and softwares via apt-get. So i always use an external multithreading p2p download tools to get dvd iso(with more packages in it) and have a complete installation.
apt-get install catfish tracker-utils (<- or the engine of your choice).
What have filesearch utils to do with session saving? Try simple trick on your favorite LXDE desktop: RELOGIN. Nothing is saved, clean desktop is started. You are free to write your own openbox.rc or autostart.sh at will. This is not userfriendliness at all.
I'm not talking here about extremely weird approach to adding a link on desktop or taskbar, about lack of LXPanel plugins and the latter inability to work correctly as vertical panel, about actually LXDE website gone MIA.
The current problems with XFCE are: thunar unable to handle properties of multiple objects and the panel is still very primitive, compared to GNOME2/3 or KDE3/4. This still makes XFCE an under-developed desktop, but it can be used by newbies.