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    Phoronix: Wine 1.5.10 Defaults To D3D Off-Screen Rendering

    Today marks the release of the Wine 1.5.10 development version and among other changes it now defaults to off-screen rendering for Direct3D...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTE1MTE

  • #2
    So, what does this mean?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by bachinchi View Post
      So, what does this mean?
      From http://wiki.winehq.org/UsefulRegistryKeys:
      Originally posted by winehq.org
      AlwaysOffscreen
      Use offscreen rendering for all render targets. The main effect this has is
      avoiding the depth buffer copy between offscreen and onscreen targets, which
      introduces fallbacks in some drivers and exposes bugs in others. There may be a
      performance hit depending on the specific driver. Set to "disabled" to disable.

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      • #4
        Fine, but are there any sound fixes?

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        • #5
          The best audio improvement that you can do in Linux is....remove PulseAudio in any Linux distro that uses it

          I just did it in XUBUNTU 12.04 so i can play ETQW with it's native client and finally VOIP doesn't crashes the game.

          In Slackware VOIP of ETQW never crashes the game (because Slackware doesn't use that abomination called PulseAudio) but in UBUNTU and derivates, as sure as the Sun goes up tomorrow, it does.

          Remove PulseAudio was quite simple actually.

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          • #6
            Not another PulseAudio thread...

            The sound stutters in Wine and only in Wine, therefore it is Wine's problem. Not anything else's.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
              Not another PulseAudio thread...

              The sound stutters in Wine and only in Wine, therefore it is Wine's problem. Not anything else's.
              You do realize that argument works quite the same for pulse: "The sound stutters in Pulse and only in Pulse, therefore it is Pulse's problem. Not anything else's."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bachinchi View Post
                So, what does this mean?
                It improves performance dramatically in some games, at least on Intel where we hit a fallback. I ran into this a few months ago and did some profiling. See http://lists.freedesktop.org/archive...ch/020088.html

                Starcraft II performance for me on SNB went from 3 to 25 FPS by enabling AlwaysOffscreen. Now, it's on by default.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
                  Not another PulseAudio thread...

                  The sound stutters in Wine and only in Wine, therefore it is Wine's problem. Not anything else's.
                  Actually, for me that NEVER use PulseAudio and only ALSA , the audio NEVER stutters in WINE.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AJSB View Post
                    Actually, for me that NEVER use PulseAudio and only ALSA , the audio NEVER stutters in WINE.
                    Could you please go troll somewhere else? What makes you think that anybody cares that you can manage with just ALSA? PulseAudio is essential for anybody that wants actually usable system or owns modern hardware like bluetooth headsets or multiple soundcards or HDMI monitors or multichannel setups or.... WINE lacking proper PulseAudio is a real problem not so much PA itself.

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                    • #11
                      OK, let's not talk about me...

                      ANYONE that wants to play ETQW native and use the build-in VOIP, PulseAudio is total c**p for the simple reason that as soon as you press ANY of the VOIP keys, game crashes.

                      Taking in account that ETQW is, IMHO, the best *native* FPS for Linux (and even after Valve games are ported, it will continue to be the BEST FPS, IMHO, YMMV) , that's real bad.

                      There many people reporting problems with other native games with PA so, it's not only a problem of WINE...is a wide spread problem but with PA.

                      As for two sound cards under ALSA i used to have it but wasn't easy and , IIRC, not working at same time, Eventually i removed one because i really didn't need two cards, my GC uses HDMI exclusive to exit video (but because TFT monitor uses still a VGA, it has a converting plug, sound is not by it , monitor doesn't have speakers witch i consider a good thing because give me total freedom to use whatever i want as speakers goes...i like my games audio loud to piss of neighbours


                      Ooooppssss....i talked about me

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Teho View Post
                        PulseAudio is essential for anybody that wants actually usable system
                        … and you call others trolls…

                        Anyway thanks for the information that Michael wouldn’t give, mattst88!

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                        • #13
                          When the audio starts stuttering after a Wine update, I think it is more than fair to blame Wine. And I am playing plenty of native games - including ET:QW - without issues.

                          But I am sorry that I opened up this can of worms if we are just to get another PA rant thread. Especially when it was over one rather innocuous vent.

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                          • #14
                            Just re-refresh(installed) steam with 1.5.10 now all the text is blank 8( I can't play RO2..

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by AJSB View Post
                              OK, let's not talk about me...

                              ANYONE that wants to play ETQW native and use the build-in VOIP, PulseAudio is total c**p for the simple reason that as soon as you press ANY of the VOIP keys, game crashes.
                              Right, The game crashing is /totally/ PA's fault. Just like all problems in Blender are caused by firefox and all problems in Gimp are caused by irssi. Maybe we should blame the programs that are unstable for their crashes rather than blaming random 3rd party stuff.

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