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  • #31
    Originally posted by Adarion View Post
    But here in the forums there is flaming about KDE and XFCE to read. Hello? Some people probably ate the wrong Müsli/Cornflakes for breakfast?
    I eat usability terror for breakfast!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by drag View Post
      If shit is just randomly segfaulting like that for you I'd say that you better check the memory on your system. Try memtest86+ and leave it running over night.
      Doesn't seem so randomly to me.

      This was from opening a youtube html5 video in firefox nightly:
      Code:
      Application: KMix (kdeinit4), signal: Segmentation fault
      Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1".
      [Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7f777af42780 (LWP 2088))]
      
      Thread 2 (Thread 0x7f775905b700 (LWP 2215)):
      #0  0x00007f77798022ed in read () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
      #1  0x00007f77754fc7bf in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
      #2  0x00007f77754c11ca in g_main_context_check () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
      #3  0x00007f77754c16d2 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
      #4  0x00007f77754c1854 in g_main_context_iteration () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
      #5  0x00007f7779bb31b6 in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
      #6  0x00007f7779b83f8f in QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
      #7  0x00007f7779b84218 in QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
      #8  0x00007f7779a886f0 in QThread::exec() () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
      #9  0x00007f7779b6498f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
      #10 0x00007f7779a8b68b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
      #11 0x00007f77797fbe0e in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
      #12 0x00007f77785901ed in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
      
      Thread 1 (Thread 0x7f777af42780 (LWP 2088)):
      [KCrash Handler]
      #6  0x0000000001c6f1ea in ?? ()
      #7  0x00007f7767874f36 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kmix.so
      #8  0x00007f776787075b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kmix.so
      #9  0x00007f7779b9a3ff in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, int, void**) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
      #10 0x00007f7779b9a3ff in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, int, void**) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
      #11 0x00007f7767849c1c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kmix.so
      #12 0x00007f7767859f05 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kmix.so
      #13 0x00007f776a836a94 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libpulse.so.0
      #14 0x00007f7768ec9303 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libpulsecommon-1.1.so
      #15 0x00007f7768ec9673 in pa_pdispatch_run () from /usr/lib/libpulsecommon-1.1.so
      #16 0x00007f776a82d1ed in ?? () from /usr/lib/libpulse.so.0
      #17 0x00007f7768ecdf19 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libpulsecommon-1.1.so
      #18 0x00007f776a619ac3 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libpulse-mainloop-glib.so.0
      #19 0x00007f77754c137c in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
      #20 0x00007f77754c1798 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
      #21 0x00007f77754c1854 in g_main_context_iteration () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
      #22 0x00007f7779bb3196 in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
      #23 0x00007f7778dbb42e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4
      #24 0x00007f7779b83f8f in QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
      #25 0x00007f7779b84218 in QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
      #26 0x00007f7779b88bf8 in QCoreApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
      #27 0x00007f77678614f2 in kdemain () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kmix.so
      #28 0x00000000004083e4 in _start ()
      But maybe I will test my memory the next time I happen to reboot.

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      • #33
        the MATE guys are doing a great job. the fact that they started with some code that works well and has been well tested probably helps.

        In the past year i have tried many different desktops, but nothing has been as good for me as GNOME2/MATE. for example, when I plug a monitor into my netbook, GNOME2/MATE remembers how it was arranged last times and automatically switches to that. It also gets it right if i plug or unplu an monitor while suspended. KDE pops up a dialogue, that lets me open the monitor control panel, and 5 clicks later I have it back the way it was last time. The lightweight desktops either don't notice the new monitor, or switch to a default layout. they also tend to move windows so that they span across the screens, and leave windows in inaccessible places when i unplug the monitor.

        i recently tried the gnome classic mode in ubuntu 12.04. it suffers from stupid bugs like alt+tab not working. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...el/+bug/971051

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        • #34
          Originally posted by bachinchi View Post
          I dare to say that again. KDE can be tweaked to look like Gnome (be it classic or GShell). Overall it's a better desktop environment.
          So can Xfce

          It even can handle Gnome 2/3 apps with aplomb with the normal Gnome libs

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          • #35
            Originally posted by ChrisXY View Post
            In KDE 4.8.2 when I enable nepomuk/virtuoso kdeinit4 will crash as soon as I start krunner.
            Oh and now it won't work with either nepomuk enabled or disabled.

            If anybody cares:
            Code:
            Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)
            QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
            KDE Daemon (kded) already running.
            QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
            kbuildsycoca4 running...
            kbuildsycoca4(7275) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry application/x-openbenchmarking in "/home/chris/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). 
            kbuildsycoca4(7275) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry x-scheme-handler/file in "/home/chris/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). 
            kbuildsycoca4(7275) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry x-scheme-handler/trash in "/home/chris/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). 
            QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
            QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
            X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2
              Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x0
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry)
              Resource id:  0x4a00191
            X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
              Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes)
              Resource id:  0x1fe87a8
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a00191
            X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 163
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 8 (RenderComposite)
              Resource id:  0x4a00191
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 55 (X_CreateGC)
              Resource id:  0x4a00191
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 55 (X_CreateGC)
              Resource id:  0x4a00191
            X Error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) 11
              Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x172
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a00195
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 55 (X_CreateGC)
              Resource id:  0x4a00195
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 62 (X_CopyArea)
              Resource id:  0x4a00195
            X Error: BadGC (invalid GC parameter) 13
              Major opcode: 60 (X_FreeGC)
              Resource id:  0x4a00195
            X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 163
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 5 (RenderChangePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a00195
            X Error: BadGC (invalid GC parameter) 13
              Major opcode: 60 (X_FreeGC)
              Resource id:  0x4a00195
            X Error: BadGC (invalid GC parameter) 13
              Major opcode: 60 (X_FreeGC)
              Resource id:  0x4a00195
            X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 163
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 7 (RenderFreePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a00195
            X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2
              Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x0
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry)
              Resource id:  0x4a00198
            X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
              Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes)
              Resource id:  0x1fe87a8
            QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a00198
            X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2
              Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x0
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019a
            X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
              Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes)
              Resource id:  0x0
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019a
            X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 163
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 8 (RenderComposite)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019a
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 55 (X_CreateGC)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019a
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 55 (X_CreateGC)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019a
            X Error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) 11
              Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x172
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019e
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 55 (X_CreateGC)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019e
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 62 (X_CopyArea)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019e
            X Error: BadGC (invalid GC parameter) 13
              Major opcode: 60 (X_FreeGC)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019e
            X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 163
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 5 (RenderChangePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019e
            X Error: BadGC (invalid GC parameter) 13
              Major opcode: 60 (X_FreeGC)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019e
            X Error: BadGC (invalid GC parameter) 13
              Major opcode: 60 (X_FreeGC)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019e
            X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 163
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 7 (RenderFreePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019e
            X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2
              Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x0
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a1
            X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
              Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes)
              Resource id:  0x21e4f70
            QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a1
            X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2
              Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x0
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a3
            X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
              Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes)
              Resource id:  0x0
            QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a3
            X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2
              Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x0
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a5
            X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
              Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes)
              Resource id:  0x40
            QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a5
            X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2
              Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x0
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a7
            X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
              Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes)
              Resource id:  0x80
            QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a7
            X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2
              Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x0
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a9
            X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
              Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes)
              Resource id:  0x0
            QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a9
            krunner(7333) KDevelopSessions::KDevelopSessions: INIT KDEV 
            krunner(7333) KDevelopSessions::loadSessions: LOADSESSION!.>>> 
            "/usr/bin/kdeinit4(7333)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files"
            "/usr/bin/kdeinit4(7333)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name"
            "/usr/bin/kdeinit4(7333)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files"
            "/usr/bin/kdeinit4(7333)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name"
            "/usr/bin/kdeinit4(7333)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files"
            "/usr/bin/kdeinit4(7333)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name"
            krunner(7333)/libplasma Plasma::Package::isValid: Could not find required file mainscript 
            X Error: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) 4
              Major opcode: 54 (X_FreePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x4a00195
            X Error: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) 4
              Major opcode: 54 (X_FreePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x4a00198
            X Error: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) 4
              Major opcode: 54 (X_FreePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019e
            X Error: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) 4
              Major opcode: 54 (X_FreePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a1
            X Error: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) 4
              Major opcode: 54 (X_FreePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a3
            X Error: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) 4
              Major opcode: 54 (X_FreePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a5
            X Error: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) 4
              Major opcode: 54 (X_FreePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a7
            X Error: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) 4
              Major opcode: 54 (X_FreePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a9
            X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 163
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 7 (RenderFreePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a9
            X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 163
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 7 (RenderFreePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a9
            X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 163
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 7 (RenderFreePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a9
            X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 163
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 7 (RenderFreePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a9
            X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 163
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 7 (RenderFreePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a9
            X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 163
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 7 (RenderFreePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a001a9
            X Error: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) 4
              Major opcode: 54 (X_FreePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019e
            X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 163
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 7 (RenderFreePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019e
            X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 163
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 7 (RenderFreePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a0019e
            X Error: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) 4
              Major opcode: 54 (X_FreePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x4a00195
            X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2
              Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap)
              Resource id:  0x0
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry)
              Resource id:  0x4a0028e
            X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
              Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes)
              Resource id:  0x21e3a80
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture)
              Resource id:  0x4a0028e
            X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 163
              Extension:    149 (RENDER)
              Minor opcode: 8 (RenderComposite)
              Resource id:  0x4a0028e
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 55 (X_CreateGC)
              Resource id:  0x4a0028e
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 55 (X_CreateGC)
              Resource id:  0x4a0028e
            X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9
              Major opcode: 73 (X_GetImage)
              Resource id:  0x4a0028e
            Qt has caught an exception thrown from an event handler. Throwing
            exceptions from an event handler is not supported in Qt. You must
            reimplement QApplication::notify() and catch all exceptions there.
            
            terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
              what():  std::bad_alloc
            I certainly don't care enaugh anymore to fill bug reports. I am not interested in a full time job.
            Last edited by ChrisXY; 04-18-2012, 12:19 PM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by cl333r View Post
              Without upgrading to at least Gtk3 it's stuck with old app versions too, dead-end. I'd rather use Gnome3 as much as I hate it with up to date apps, rather than Gnome2 with outdated apps.
              I am able to use Gtk3 application under MATE.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u7bfc7CkyU

              Comment


              • #37
                The problem is not that MATE can not run GTK3 applications, it is that the MATE components are not GTK3.

                What did you think they meant?

                Comment


                • #38
                  Originally posted by ChrisXY View Post
                  Oh and now it won't work with either nepomuk enabled or disabled.

                  If anybody cares:
                  Code:
                  terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
                    what():  std::bad_alloc
                  I certainly don't care enaugh anymore to fill bug reports. I am not interested in a full time job.
                  std::bad_alloc means it ran out of memory. That's very strange, as the Linux kernel has overcommit on by default so a program can only run out of memory when it allocates the entire virtual address space available to it, 3GB on 32bit, huge value on 64bit, but even the 32bit limit is hard to achieve by a single application unless it went bersek and started allocating memory in a loop.
                  You should really run memtest on that computer.

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                  • #39
                    It's not my memory:
                    https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298131

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