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    Phoronix: VLC 2.0 Twoflower Media Player Released

    VLC 2.0 (codenamed "Twoflower") has been released as a major update to this very popular open-source multimedia player...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTA1OTM

  • #2
    Sadly, this only enforces my idea that releases and upping major version numbers is all about publicity and competition. Otherwise you'd find it pretty peculiar that a relatively short while after mplayer2 is forked/released, vlc follows suite. Not that vlc is an inherently bad thing.

    That's why I like chromium's release numbering. They seem pretty arbitrary and you never notice any real big change (well, especially on the alpha channel), but the browser slowly improves all the time. Not that chromium is an inherently good thing, of course.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by susikala View Post
      Sadly, this only enforces my idea that releases and upping major version numbers is all about publicity and competition. Otherwise you'd find it pretty peculiar that a relatively short while after mplayer2 is forked/released, vlc follows suite. Not that vlc is an inherently bad thing.

      That's why I like chromium's release numbering. They seem pretty arbitrary and you never notice any real big change (well, especially on the alpha channel), but the browser slowly improves all the time. Not that chromium is an inherently good thing, of course.
      A) It's not a fork
      B)Did you even read the article? There's a large number of changes in this release.
      Besides there's nothing wrong with a quality project getting some well deserved publicity

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      • #4
        License change

        You forgot to mention that they changed their license from GPL to LGPLv2.1+ (http://www.videolan.org/press/lgpl-libvlc.html). This will mostly benefit users since it will allow applications and plug-ins based on VLC to be built under non-GPL licenses i.e. more proprietary features.

        While I'm not particularly fond of this idea (I'd rather have the companies simply release an open-source version of their features, but let's face it, that probably won't happen), I respect the VLC project's decision to put their users' experience before open-source idealists.

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        • #5
          That also fixed the bug that prevented VLC from playing videos directly from YouTube. Yay, now I can see YT videos with hardware acceleration!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by susikala View Post
            That's why I like chromium's release numbering. They seem pretty arbitrary and you never notice any real big change.
            Google Chrome's (yeah, I know chromium != Chrome) release numbers suck and I can't believe Mozilla caved to the ignorant notion that one program is inherently better than another because it has a bigger version number.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Raven3x7 View Post
              A) It's not a fork
              B)Did you even read the article? There's a large number of changes in this release.
              Besides there's nothing wrong with a quality project getting some well deserved publicity
              1. mplayer2 is very well a fork of mplayer. It's possible you left your reading comprehension at home?
              2. Regardless of the number of changes, I said I find it curious how vlc ups to 2 just (or relatively short) after mplayer2 is released. For me, this is about publicity more than quality. And quality isn't measured in version numbering, sorry.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by susikala View Post
                Sadly, this only enforces my idea that releases and upping major version numbers is all about publicity and competition. Otherwise you'd find it pretty peculiar that a relatively short while after mplayer2 is forked/released, vlc follows suite. Not that vlc is an inherently bad thing.

                That's why I like chromium's release numbering. They seem pretty arbitrary and you never notice any real big change (well, especially on the alpha channel), but the browser slowly improves all the time. Not that chromium is an inherently good thing, of course.
                Originally posted by susikala View Post
                1. mplayer2 is very well a fork of mplayer. It's possible you left your reading comprehension at home?
                2. Regardless of the number of changes, I said I find it curious how vlc ups to 2 just (or relatively short) after mplayer2 is released. For me, this is about publicity more than quality. And quality isn't measured in version numbering, sorry.
                As opposed to what? The old traditional open source versioning scheme? "Ok, our project is 15 years old, we've just released version 0.3567.46.0057995487. We're just gonna keep going on like this with a version number that means nothing to nobody, doesn't tell anyone anything about what new features have been added or anything, it's just huge and has many decimal points thus you know the code quality must be amazing!"

                Least with the Firefox versioning scheme I know what the browser is capable of at a glance, I don't need to hire a changelog Sherpa to find out whats new in 0.3567.46.0057995487

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                • #9
                  Great new feature

                  Multi-threaded decoding for H.264, MPEG-4/Xvid and WebM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FourDMusic View Post
                    You forgot to mention that they changed their license from GPL to LGPLv2.1+ (http://www.videolan.org/press/lgpl-libvlc.html). This will mostly benefit users since it will allow applications and plug-ins based on VLC to be built under non-GPL licenses i.e. more proprietary features.
                    Actually from the announcement is says LGPL only applies to the libVLC engine while the VLC Media Player is still licenced under GPLv2. I see nothing wrong with this move since I think LGPL is a great choice for component style code, meaning you are only interested in changes made to the components (in this case libVLC) be given back to the original project.

                    And yes, multithreaded decoding sounds great! I also hope they have improved on stability when jumping around in video streams at 3x, 4x etc speeds, as it's the only time I've encountered crashes in VLC.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by susikala View Post
                      I said I find it curious how vlc ups to 2 just (or relatively short) after mplayer2 is released. For me, this is about publicity more than quality. And quality isn't measured in version numbering, sorry.
                      Ehh, I kind of doubt it. I'd say VLC is FAR more well-known than mplayer and obviously even more so than the mplayer2 fork so why would they need any 'thunder' from mplayer2? I'm running Linux 24/7 (with a little Haiku now and then) and I had no idea mplayer2 had a new release.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by susikala View Post
                        Regardless of the number of changes, I said I find it curious how vlc ups to 2 just (or relatively short) after mplayer2 is released. For me, this is about publicity more than quality.
                        WTF are you going on about? mplayer2 2.0 was released almost a year ago, and VLC has had version 2.0 planned for months. Furthermore, no one gives a fsck about what video player you use based on your version conspiracy theory.

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                        • #13
                          I find the version numbering in VLC to be fairly ok, I followed this project for many years now and it was really ok. The first big number was with the introduction of Qt and now after this time I think it is ok with 2.0 since there are a lot of new features and hopefully fixes.
                          I'm glad to see this all-systems nearly-all-codecs project still going on and evolving.

                          I will sync Gentoo soon to pull this one in and see how it works. I am happy that Gentoo leaves it to the users to decide to use potentially problematic things like libdvdcss and stuff or not. I was really surprised when I installed openSuSE 12.1 on some people's laptops recently that vlc was not in their official tree.

                          I just hope that VLC will get this stupid BluRay stuff hacked/cracked soon so I don't have to mess around on windows with certain programs to rip my legally bought BluRays and waste 50GB HDD space just to be able to see it. (Of course it would be better if content mafia left out all that play protection once and forever.)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Adarion View Post
                            I just hope that VLC will get this stupid BluRay stuff hacked/cracked soon so I don't have to mess around on windows with certain programs to rip my legally bought BluRays and waste 50GB HDD space just to be able to see it.
                            AFAIK (I don't have a Bluray drive) lxbdplayer together with the lxbdaacs plugin plays encrypted Blurays just fine straight from the disc. Also if you still want to rip them to harddrive then you could (again AFAIK) use dumphd, so there should be no need to 'mess around on windows' unless you want to.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by susikala View Post
                              1. mplayer2 is very well a fork of mplayer. It's possible you left your reading comprehension at home?
                              2. Regardless of the number of changes, I said I find it curious how vlc ups to 2 just (or relatively short) after mplayer2 is released. For me, this is about publicity more than quality. And quality isn't measured in version numbering, sorry.
                              And of course i meant that vlc 2.0 is not a fork...
                              Last edited by Raven3x7; 02-20-2012, 03:19 PM.

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