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  • Compiz Is Likely To Get The Boot From Fedora 17

    Phoronix: Compiz Is Likely To Get The Boot From Fedora 17

    While Fedora 17 has a massive amount of features to look forward to, updates to Compiz is likely not on the agenda. In the coming days, Compiz and its related packages for this compositing window manager are likely to be removed from the Fedora 17 package-list...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTA1MjI

  • #2
    I've moved on

    I haven't used Compiz since Gnome-3 in Fedora 16's beta. Just the other day, I switched from gnome-shell to fallback mode, so that I could use the nouveau driver without video tearing. It makes keeping up with the upstream kernels much easier, since I'm now 100% non-proprietary. I also find that my desktop feels much faster without the transition animations that I couldn't shut off in gnome-shell. It did take a bit to figure out how to configure the panels (alt+right-click), but now my desktop is fully customized to my liking, and no extensions needed.

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    • #3
      May be not a so good idea

      KDE can use compiz alongside kwin. And some use that as far I know as Kwin on some old configuration causes trouble.

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      • #4
        openSUSE has the same issue, the current maintainer is stepping down and if no one else takes over then compiz will also be removed there.

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        • #5
          As far as i know even gentoo people dropped compiz ebuild from portage, too bad.
          I'm currenctly using it alongside kde4.8 because it is still MUCH faster than kwin, expecially when it comes to firefox smooth scroll.
          Hoping archlinux will continue to provide binaries...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kokoko3k View Post
            Hoping archlinux will continue to provide binaries...
            Yes, agreed. There's always the AUR of course if we need it.

            I always used Compiz on Gnome 2, not (primarily) for bling but for its many useful features. I dumped Gnome since it turned 3 but kept Compiz and I've even learnt a bit more by having to replace most of the Gnome components of my desktop. Much happier now with the independence.
            Last edited by chimeland; 02-03-2012, 09:33 AM. Reason: Grammar

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            • #7
              And nothing of value was lost

              One can always use xcompmgr for compositing anyway.

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              • #8
                yeah, but xcompmgr = tearing

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kokoko3k View Post
                  As far as i know even gentoo people dropped compiz ebuild from portage, too bad.
                  I'm currenctly using it alongside kde4.8 because it is still MUCH faster than kwin, expecially when it comes to firefox smooth scroll.
                  Hoping archlinux will continue to provide binaries...
                  Hmm seems you are right..
                  http://packages.gentoo.org/package/x11-wm/compiz
                  http://packages.gentoo.org/package/x11-wm/compiz-fusion

                  It's there but it seems to have been hardmasked. Don't know how long ago though. I've had it installed (but never used it) from the desktop-overlay, and pretty recently uninstalled it, so I didn't notice the masking.

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                  • #10
                    Yes it's been dropped from Gentoo. Typically things are hardmasked prior to removal. This happened quite a while before I knew Fedora was considering doing the same. http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-de...6b24af6f54.xml

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                    • #11
                      i haven't tried compiz in maybe a little over 2 years, but it seemed pretty stable to me back then and had a lot of features. i'm sure within that time, it has been improved. is fedora seriously just ditching it because nobody is maintaining it anymore? because maybe theres just nothing to maintain. so for example suppose the linux kernel's development slows down to almost a complete halt for months. are they going to remove it? unless compiz is proving to be a problem, removing something because its orphaned is an incredibly stupid motive.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                        i haven't tried compiz in maybe a little over 2 years, but it seemed pretty stable to me back then and had a lot of features. i'm sure within that time, it has been improved. is fedora seriously just ditching it because nobody is maintaining it anymore? because maybe theres just nothing to maintain. so for example suppose the linux kernel's development slows down to almost a complete halt for months. are they going to remove it? unless compiz is proving to be a problem, removing something because its orphaned is an incredibly stupid motive.
                        What would be even more stupid would be keeping a package which does not work as no one would bother making it continue to function on a changing software ecosystem with changing and updating libraries. Which Fedora definitely is.

                        Think about what you are saying.

                        Actually, what I am more surprised about is that AWN may be getting the boot, as a lot of people are using that in conjunction with Gnome Shell.

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                        • #13
                          Ok, this is getting crazy.

                          Compiz has quite a lot of nice functionality which is NOT available in other window managers. Why remove it?

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                          • #14
                            Fedora have never been really good at supporting WM other than Gnome. Their KDE4 version was a mess early on (better now) and they don't package many advanced WMs like Awesome and Gnome2. This is not a surprise.

                            As for Unity, I tried to port it to Gentoo in the early day of the 2D version and I can totally confirm. It wont run unless they use mainstream API. Even the 2D version had over 30 custom dependencies. They even ported part of Gnome2 to Qt ?!?. Yea, I am not kidding, they really did. It is a mess.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cyberax View Post
                              Why remove it?
                              Originally posted by phoronix.com
                              The package retiring comes from packages that no longer build against the current state of Fedora and/or are orphaned by meaning they no longer have an appropriate (active) package maintainer. All of the Compiz packages have been orphaned (meaning there's no maintainer) and so as such they are likely to be stripped away in the next week if no one picks them up. The retirement list for Fedora 17 has been floating around since last month and no one's been interested in Compiz yet.
                              It shouldn't be that hard to read/understand. You can't have applications in repositories that do not compile and solving such issues can take time. Now the problem here is that there is no maintaner so who do you think is going to do the work of first fixing the issue, then compiling, then testing and furthermore maintain the package till someone else picks it up? The reason why it's being removed is because there's no one to do the work.

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