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  • #16
    Originally posted by liam View Post
    Have a look at Vala.
    Frankly, I really wish they would not allow ANY primary Gnome app to be written in anything other than Vala...
    Which version of Vala would that be? 0.8, 0.9, 0.12, 0.14?

    I like the idea behind this high-level language. I just wish they quit dicking around and finalize the language. Who wants to write code and then have to rewrite it at some point in the future because they redesigned the language the code was written in, certainly not me.

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    • #17
      I really don't know why some people are so angry about Gnome that they felt compelled to answer the survey even though: 1)they clearly aren't users (and haven't been for a long time) and 2)have fundamental problems with gnome, yet ask that gnome change its core identity (something that is unreasonable to expect).
      I don't like some of the choices (or rather non-choices) KDE has made but I don't spam every KDE thread just b/c it doesn't suit my taste. Their, and to be fair, it's not just them and it isn't all KDE users obviously, comments are simply noise and make this sort of survey less useful. The reason I say this is b/c their were far too many instances of toolkit fanboys asking the unreasonable and that just isn't useful.
      For those who complain about GS being too heavy on reasources, how much ram/cpu is it using on your pc? On mine, GS uses around 115MB, and that doesn't seem bad considering what is included in that space. Hell, synapse (the launcher) uses more memory. If you compare it to XFCE/LXDE you aren't comparing comparable DEs b/c the later simply don't offer as much by default (or even with heavy configuration, since THAT developer is as bad as some of the gnome devs).
      There were some good criticisms, I thought. Documentation was one I completely forgot about mentioning. The addition of more online accounts (I've read the mailing lists so I know why they went with only Google, but that doesn't mean that it SHOULDN'T be the central place for applications to register their online activities). Mutter needs to remember where windows were placed and their size. Really, mutter needs more "intelligence". You can remove options and make things stark IF the DE adapts to you. Right now you have to adapt to it and the flow, for me, isn't ideal, and I've been using it for nearly 2 years. I would like to see some learning algorithms put into place (using HASKELL!!!!--sure it needn't be haskell, but that including a FPL would be a nice thing for a desktop).

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      • #18
        Originally posted by AnonymousCoward View Post
        Which version of Vala would that be? 0.8, 0.9, 0.12, 0.14?

        I like the idea behind this high-level language. I just wish they quit dicking around and finalize the language. Who wants to write code and then have to rewrite it at some point in the future because they redesigned the language the code was written in, certainly not me.
        I'm using 0.14.0. What significant changes have been made in the last year or so?
        I recall reading that there are some remaining issues with getting complete GIR coverage in vala but I don't recall what they were.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by AlbertP View Post
          I agree with Maxim, but Gnome 2 still works fine here. So I have no reason to leave Gnome at the moment. By the way, I can't choose whether I like KDE or not. I don't like its file managers but I like its Plasma Desktop (though I'd prefer a desktop which does not crash all the time, and that's what KDE 4.5 did at me). But I'll first await the Gnome 3 version of Linux Mint 12 - as Clem knows very well what a lot of people don't like in Gnome 3. It'll most likely be LXDE for me when I have to leave Gnome. Or Xfce, a desktop which I haven't yet tried.
          Unity is also installed on my laptop, but I still have to try it. As long as I can keep using Gnome 2 I don't need another desktop.
          What problems have you found with Dolphin?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by AnonymousCoward View Post
            Which version of Vala would that be? 0.8, 0.9, 0.12, 0.14?

            I like the idea behind this high-level language. I just wish they quit dicking around and finalize the language. Who wants to write code and then have to rewrite it at some point in the future because they redesigned the language the code was written in, certainly not me.
            ^^^^^ this.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by prokoudine View Post
              Oh my. Take one was an opinionated piece of crap. Take two is unloading 1K of comments on readers. Dear Phoronix, take a break. You're clearly out of ideas.
              Yeah. Try http://www.h-online.com/open/ and LWN for competent technical linux news.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by nzjrs View Post
                Yeah. Try http://www.h-online.com/open/ and LWN for competent technical linux news.
                Funny how h-online uses phoronix for sources of many of their articles.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                  Funny how h-online uses phoronix for sources of many of their articles.
                  Yeah, I liked the h-online summary of the phoronix gnome survey. They removed all the trolling and published it in a much more sensible and responsible form.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by nzjrs View Post
                    Yeah, I liked the h-online summary of the phoronix gnome survey. They removed all the trolling and published it in a much more sensible and responsible form.
                    H-online does very little but aggregate other news sources (not to mention that they have a much larger staff).

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                      H-online does very little but aggregate other news sources (not to mention that they have a much larger staff).
                      Yes, they do a very good job.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by nzjrs View Post
                        Yes, they do a very good job.
                        So does igoogle's rss reader.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                          So does igoogle's rss reader.
                          I didn't know igoogle rss reader had a crap filter, have a much larger staff (your words) and also write excellent features!

                          Thanks!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by nzjrs View Post
                            I didn't know igoogle rss reader had a crap filter, have a much larger staff (your words) and also write excellent features!

                            Thanks!
                            News scraping other sites articles and quoting others isn't exactly rocket science.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                              News scraping other sites articles and quoting others isn't exactly rocket science.
                              You sound like a troll. What you say mirrors Phoronix beautifully. Sure The H have short aggregated news items, but generally the quality of their writing and features, even "quoted items", are of a much higher quality than here. Original content on Phoronix are few and far between (forget automated benchmark graphs) and those that are is typically self-serving or sensationalist ("STEAM for Linux!!11").

                              nzjrs is right.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by numasan View Post
                                You sound like a troll.
                                He is a moderator. Moderators can't be trolls, it's against cosmic harmony. Otherwise we are all doomed, cause there's nothing like lack of cosmic harmony to shove good old mother Earth in a black hole or something
                                Last edited by prokoudine; 10-25-2011, 09:04 PM.

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