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  • GNOME & KDE Developers Go To Battle Over A Name

    Phoronix: GNOME & KDE Developers Go To Battle Over A Name

    Ahead of the Berlin Desktop Summit, several GNOME and KDE developers have begun a mailing list battle...over a name. In particular, that with GNOME 3.0 their control panel areas is called "System Settings", which is precisely what the KDE developers call their system control area too...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=OTY5OQ

  • #2
    MY PROPOSAL: make an universal tool for configure system.

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    • #3
      To hell with those Gnometards. KILL 'EM ALL!

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      • #4
        Please stop this stupid war.

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        • #5
          Finally some fun! Who's taking bets?
          10$ KDE wins!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by fabioamd87 View Post
            MY PROPOSAL: make an universal tool for configure system.
            It exists and it's called YaST but that doesn't change the fact that GNOME used a name that was already taken. KDE’s System Settings exists since years and I don't even get what was wrong with the old Control Center name.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
              It exists and it's called YaST but that doesn't change the fact that GNOME used a name that was already taken. KDE’s System Settings exists since years and I don't even get what was wrong with the old Control Center name.
              Not really. YaST is for systemwide administration not for desktop specific settings.

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              • #8
                My proposal as posted on the list:

                Just a small suggestion on how i think this should be "fixed" (since 2
                desktop files for one app seems just ugly to me).
                Perhaps it's better to extend the desktop file specification:
                http://standards.freedesktop.org/des...t/ar01s05.html

                And i would propose adding 2 entries:
                NativeDE - This one holds the desktop environment name where the app
                would be "native". So GNOME, KDE or whatever.
                NameNonNative - This one holds the app name when it's shown in a
                desktop environment that is not native. When not set fallback to
                "Name"

                So for example the "System Settings" app in KDE looks somewhat like
                this in a .desktop file:

                Name=System Settings
                NativeDE=KDE
                NameNonNative=KDE System Settings

                The same applies for gnome system settings and also for the system
                monitor (that also has the naming issue)
                Isn't this a good solution?

                Regards,
                Mark

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                  Not really. YaST is for systemwide administration not for desktop specific settings.
                  Well, "System Settings" suggests system wide administration. IMO, both KDE and Gnome chose a poor name. It should be "Desktop Environment Settings".

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                    Well, "System Settings" suggests system wide administration. IMO, both KDE and Gnome chose a poor name. It should be "Desktop Environment Settings".
                    Exactly my opinion.
                    +1

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                    • #11
                      both are assholes

                      Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                      Well, "System Settings" suggests system wide administration. IMO, both KDE and Gnome chose a poor name. It should be "Desktop Environment Settings".
                      +1
                      i find the name "System Settings" for DE config misleading and maliciously idiotic. unless it does real system-wide configuration it has no business be named like that.
                      they should call both as "<DE> bells-and-whistles configuration tool", the assholes.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dfx. View Post
                        +1
                        i find the name "System Settings" for DE config misleading and maliciously idiotic. unless it does real system-wide configuration it has no business be named like that.
                        they should call both as "<DE> bells-and-whistles configuration tool", the assholes.
                        do you people actually believe that the average joe user understands or will care about details like that or know the difference??

                        the average user sees the whole computer as a system (which it is in a sense)

                        the name is just a name. the technical conflicts that might occur must be solved and the user shouldn't care at all

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                        • #13
                          Wow, how mature...

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                          • #14
                            ...kcontrol.. ..good old days... sigh...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                              Well, "System Settings" suggests system wide administration. IMO, both KDE and Gnome chose a poor name. It should be "Desktop Environment Settings".
                              Too bad, you got it wrong. KDE System Settings can configure the system. In fact it can configure anything for which a KCM is available. Heck, even KPackageKit hooks into KDE System Settings for software management if it's installed.

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